Trudeau Effectively Decriminalizes Drugs in BC

[mr2mike]

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I don't want to pick which one...

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Not a Donna fan. More about Brandon? Keep it Canadian.

[killramos]

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https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedc...11-021-00394-7

It seems to have worked for Portugal.

I'm all for trying something different. Doubling down on the same policies over and over for the last 50 years hasn't exactly been effective...

Depends what you consider the goal to be

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Not a Donna fan. More about Brandon? Keep it Canadian.

It's a "fuck my Spelling" joke.

[Gman.45]

I agree with some of you, that the war on drugs has been a massive failure and waste of $, and that decriminalizing users and their drugs is probably the only course of action now. My father was both RCMP and city police for 35 years, and I hate it when this subject comes up, because he goes on 30 minute rants on what a waste of resources it is using L/E to try and stop drug users. He's all in favor of complete decrim for non distribution level amounts of drugs - and goes so far as to say that the gov/pharmacies should begin supplying addicts with the products, even cocaine/opioids/meth/etc, as nothing else would stand a good chance to kill organized crime faster than removing their number 1 resource from the playing field.

One thing I don't understand - how can drugs be decriminalized federally in only one Province? I mean what is going to happen when someone next door in Alberta gets pinched with a gram of cocaine, and points out in court that is probably against his charter rights that his possession charge wouldn't exist in BC. I just don't get it, how one Province can FEDERALLY have its drug schedule laws and enforcements change, yet the other Provinces don't. I would understand if narcotics laws were Provincial, but they aren't, that's a Federal charge/rap if you get charged with narcotics possession, isn't it? I hope one of the lawyers here knows wtf is going on here.

[AndyL]

I don't get the purpose.

Bc prosecution service won't charge anyone if they're mentally ill / on drugs. So... What change does this make?

I don't get the point of any of this anymore. Politics is stupid.

[killramos]

As always it’s an excuse to spend money on niche political Issues.

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gonna be some good parties in bc

[AndyL]

Omg I laughed at this.

[davidI]

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One thing I don't understand - how can drugs be decriminalized federally in only one Province? I mean what is going to happen when someone next door in Alberta gets pinched with a gram of cocaine, and points out in court that is probably against his charter rights that his possession charge wouldn't exist in BC. I just don't get it, how one Province can FEDERALLY have its drug schedule laws and enforcements change, yet the other Provinces don't. I would understand if narcotics laws were Provincial, but they aren't, that's a Federal charge/rap if you get charged with narcotics possession, isn't it? I hope one of the lawyers here knows wtf is going on here.

I haven't looked into it enough to be sure but alcohol and cannabis laws also vary by province so I'd assume under the same legal mechanisms as those "drugs".

[killramos]

The laws don’t vary by province. The drugs are still criminal everywhere.

BC is just one big safe injection site which has a listed exemption in the health act. Same as how doctors can prescribe fent in a hospital.

[flipstah]

Does that mean any drug charges in BC are reversed?

[killramos]

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Does that mean any drug charges in BC are reversed?

Why would they be. If you broke the law yesterday you still broke the law.

Contrary to popular belief nothing has actually been decriminalized.

It also doesn’t apply to psychedelics if anyone was wondering. This is basically an opioid only thing.

[Anomaly]

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The laws don’t vary by province. The drugs are still criminal everywhere.

BC is just one big safe injection site which has a listed exemption in the health act. Same as how doctors can prescribe fent in a hospital.

So what I'm hearing, the solution to Alberta's opioid epidemic is free bus rides to the island.... I like it

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Wait so how does this law work. Does it only apply if you look like a druggie in east Hastings.

[suntan]

So basically every druggie is going to flock to BC.

[redline]

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Wait so how does this law work. Does it only apply if you look like a druggie in east Hastings.

if you have a small amount of drugs no ticket, no jail, keep your drugs... large amount of drugs go to jail....

this is good law... focus on criminals and not people with bad habits. it is not going to make a junkie go rob someone to score some drugs cause the cops took your stash.

the war on drugs is a complete failure...

[redline]

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So what I'm hearing, the solution to Alberta's opioid epidemic is free bus rides to the island.... I like it

so who is going to work in the oilfield?

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So basically every druggie is going to flock to BC.

this will be all across canada in a couple of years.

[Type_S1]

The logic behind laws in Canada is always interesting. Based on how these things are handled:

Drugs - the seller of the product is the problem, not the product or buyers

Guns - the product is the problem, not the sellers or buyers

Prostitution - the buyers of the product are the problem, not the product or sellers

[max_boost]

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if you have a small amount of drugs no ticket, no jail, keep your drugs... large amount of drugs go to jail....

this is good law... focus on criminals and not people with bad habits. it is not going to make a junkie go rob someone to score some drugs cause the cops took your stash.

the war on drugs is a complete failure...

I don't disagree at all. Addiction is a complex issue.

[vengie]

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this is good law... focus on criminals and not people with bad habits. it is not going to make a junkie go rob someone to score some drugs cause the cops took your stash.

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I disagree with you.
Not all junkies are criminals, but most commit petty crime to support their habit.

By all means decriminalize drugs, but if said junky is robbing someone, or stealing, then punish them severely.