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    Clutch has started to engage at different positions when driving.

    Clutch doesn't slip but the different engagement positions is getting annoying.

    Sometime is difficult to get into first gear as well.

    Thoughts ? Thanks.
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    Hydraulic clutch? Slave is leaking is a good possibility.

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    Have you ever changed the fluid? My best guess is it's full of moisture and rusted the slave cylinder, making it sticky.
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    Can try bleeding it. Very likely a slave starting to go. Cheap and easy part and repair to do on a honda.

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    Gonna try bleeding it this weekend. Off to PA for a vacuum bleeder kit ASAP.
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    Depending how bad,
    stop on a flat road
    put it in 1st
    Keep clutch pedal pushed
    Hold and wait to see if your car starts to move.

    A poor man's test to see if clutch MC is leaking.
    But would also indicate air too I suppose.

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    My bet is on the slave cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nufy View Post
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    Gonna try bleeding it this weekend. Off to PA for a vacuum bleeder kit ASAP.
    Just gravity bleed. Much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Just gravity bleed. Much easier.
    Maybe he doesn't have a friend?
    Not everyone is Conan O'Brien.

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    Did that this morning.

    Sat in first gear for almost 5 minutes...No movement.

    Left leg is killing me now...LOL


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    Depending how bad,
    stop on a flat road
    put it in 1st
    Keep clutch pedal pushed
    Hold and wait to see if your car starts to move.

    A poor man's test to see if clutch MC is leaking.
    But would also indicate air too I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Maybe he doesn't have a friend?
    Not everyone is Conan O'Brien.
    Isn't gravity bleed a 1-man method?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Maybe he doesn't have a friend?
    Not everyone is Conan O'Brien.
    Which is exactly why you would gravity bleed. And why it's easiest method. Hang a hose into a drain pan, open the bleeder, top up master cyl as required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Which is exactly why you would gravity bleed. And why it's easiest method. Hang a hose into a drain pan, open the bleeder, top up master cyl as required.
    Gravity bleeding sucks, especially on clutch systems. You can run 5 liters of fluid through the system and still have air trapped in it.

    For one man bleeding. Pump the clutch pedal five times, hold the clutch pedal down onto the floor with a prybar in-between the driver's seat and the pedal. Crack the bleeder screw, lift the pedal off the floor and pump again. Do this a few times, way better than gravity bleeding.

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    SO dumb question...

    If I can pry my son away from his computer all he needs to do is to pump the clutch to push new fluid through the system correct ?

    Crack open the bleeder and watch the new fluid flow.

    I just need to ensure that the reservoir is always full of fresh fluid...
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    Push pedal lightly, open bleeder, let pedal fall, when the pedal hits bottom close the bleeder and slowly return the pedal to the top. You will need to communicate.

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    You want to force fluid through the system with pressure. The pressurized fluid moving through the system with take any trapped air out with it.

    Get your son to pump the clutch pedal five times and hold it to floor. Then crack the bleeder, fluid will spray out, then close the bleeder. The clutch pedal will now be stuck on the floor and won't come up by its self, your son will have to lift up the pedal then start pumping again to build pressure back up in the system. After you do this a few times, check the level in the reservoir. Don't let the reservoir run dry. Every time you crack the bleeder you will have to lift the pedal off the floor. After the first pump or two the pedal should come back up by its self, if it does not you still have air in the system. Clutch systems are hard to bleed and may take a bit of time and fluid. I'm sure there is a boat load of videos on YouTube on how to bleed clutches.

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    Can't add much more. Good advice above.

    Depending where the bleeder port is, that's what causes issues. Air gets trapped.
    I've seen methods of tapping with a rubber mallet work to get air to move to the bleed port.

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    Flushed the fluid this weekend. No change.

    Seems ok when cold but gets worse as the engine heats up.

    Heat affecting the slave cylinder seals maybe ?

    Ordered a master / slave from RA so will see if it makes a difference.
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    When you bleed the system, what did the fluid look like? Did it come out clean or like a black slurry? When the seals in the master/slave start to break down it creates a black mess in the fluid.

    Do you have a high frequency vibration or odd feeling in the clutch pedal when you press it? I think the clutch pressure plate spring is broken, or the engine crankshaft is loosing its thrust bearings.

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    Thrust bearings would put metal flakes in the oil if you looked closely.

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