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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    Nope. That's the baseline. The baseline isn't "lets average out the killing of what may or may not be a human". Its "lets not kill humans". Same way with justice, its a tragedy when one person is wrongfully convicted and should be the highest priority to make sure it does not occur.

    This whole leftist thing with people hating their lives so much that they assume everyone else would rather never be born is also so nihilistic and angsty grade 10 emo kid it makes me want to puke. Life is a struggle, thats typically the point, most people are happy to be alive and try to keep it that way.
    Do you want to be taken seriously, or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Do you want to be taken seriously, or not?
    Can you have an honest discussion on the topic? Clearly not
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    If I had known you guys would end up being such bitches, I would’ve opened the parenting forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    Can you have an honest discussion on the topic? Clearly not
    What's there to be honest about?

    You feel that a 16 week old fetus' potential for life supersedes the right of a woman's autonomy over her body. You seem to draw this conclusion because even having one infant survive at 16 weeks is sufficient justification for assuming that any 16 week old infant may survive.

    I do not take that view as I put more weight on the woman's right to personal autonomy.

    Simply put, you are more "pro life" than me...or less "pro choice" than me, whichever you prefer.

    Where you seem to be objectively incorrect in your position is your claims about how common it is for a 16 week old fetus to survive. Feel free to post data.
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    Getting spicey
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    I’m ok with killing humans. It’s a way better solution than a climate tax.
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    I have gone above and beyond what I should rightfully have to do to protect my good name

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    Welp, if there's one thing covid has taught us, it's that rights to body autonomy are not enshrined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Meh, still on board with abortion vs a child deprived of love, care and basic needs.
    Ask any teacher that's been a substitute across the city. It's an occurrence more than you Aspenites care to admit.
    Neglect in foster care is a big issue too so I'll kill that argument right now.
    +1

    A child being born is only one part of it. Caring for, feeding, and educating a child is just as important as its first breath.

    Turning these unwanted kids loose on a foster care system known for abuse and neglect as a solution? I just don't see it.

    If a woman has decided that she is not willing to provide any one of these necessities within (timeframe) and doesn't have a realistic adoption option ie: using foster care as a last resort.
    That final decision should be hers and hers alone.
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    Maybe the pope will have a good answer now?

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    I’m ok with killing humans. It’s a way better solution than a climate tax.
    Goes further on reducing carbon emissions than any climate tax can accomplish.

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    The church always looking for new talent err blood err recruits err faithful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    I went to "The Human Body Exhibit" (or whatever it was called) several years ago at whatever museum it toured to. There was a "back section" that I wish I never went into where they showed several disturbing things including what a human child's hands look like at about ~14 weeks in utero. Holy fuck. I wish I hadn't seen that...
    Abortion is probably approximately murder.

    I still support it, but gross. I would rather have spent a week on the killing floor at Cargill than seen the image of those tiny hands.

    If you ever get the chance - don't.
    I have a good buddy who is a mortician and years back just after my first son was born they were stupid busy and asked if I would come give them a hand for the day. I had hung around previously and have a pretty solid constitution for things and figured sure, why not?

    Well that day they happened to come in with a stillborn fetus that was about 6 months along. The family asked that it be hand printed and foot printed before being cremated. That fucked with my head for a little bit, especially having a newborn at home of my own.

    This said, identifying hands and feet do not dictate when life is viable imho, although that moment when a fetus crosses over into an individual human life is not something I can say. I am just happy I am never going to have to make that decision for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    What's there to be honest about?

    You feel that a 16 week old fetus' potential for life supersedes the right of a woman's autonomy over her body. You seem to draw this conclusion because even having one infant survive at 16 weeks is sufficient justification for assuming that any 16 week old infant may survive.

    I do not take that view as I put more weight on the woman's right to personal autonomy.

    Simply put, you are more "pro life" than me...or less "pro choice" than me, whichever you prefer.

    Where you seem to be objectively incorrect in your position is your claims about how common it is for a 16 week old fetus to survive. Feel free to post data.
    Well as long as they're still in the womb they tend to overwhelmingly survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Well as long as they're still in the womb they tend to overwhelmingly survive.
    fucking squatter's rights are getting out of hand

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    Regardless of killing baby is right or wrong, this is the beginning of removing the U in USA. Federal government will end up not able to do anything to set common ground for business to operate and cost will go up.

    Today it's killing baby, tomorrow is something else. You end up with 50 set of rules and population so low that businesses just won't bother with this market.

    Its not great to start with but it's about to get way worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Regardless of killing baby is right or wrong, this is the beginning of removing the U in USA. Federal government will end up not able to do anything to set common ground for business to operate and cost will go up.

    Today it's killing baby, tomorrow is something else. You end up with 50 set of rules and population so low that businesses just won't bother with this market.

    Its not great to start with but it's about to get way worse.
    I believe we are past "the beginning" of this when we consider the radically different responses of each state during the CoVid pandemic.
    It was 50 different countries down there (not that we were much better). This is the second phase of their unraveling.

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    Lol Canada will cease to exist before the USA does.

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    Being “united” only matters when it’s in favour of left wing policy and agenda. Everyone knows that.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Considering the bible demands an abortion for an unfaithful woman, these religious pieces of shit need to get fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Regardless of killing baby is right or wrong, this is the beginning of removing the U in USA. Federal government will end up not able to do anything to set common ground for business to operate and cost will go up.
    that’s actually a big part of todays EPA ruling, that federal agencies just lost a lot of their ability to regulate states. Todays ruling IMO is as big of shake up as Roe vs Wade falling for longer term repercussions

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    Only the regulations that cause economic seppuku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    fucking squatter's rights are getting out of hand
    Must spread....had a good chuckle....

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