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    Moving money from one pile to the other demonstrates that as per usual Kert has absolutely no idea how reality works.
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    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Moving money from one pile to the other demonstrates that as per usual Kert has absolutely no idea how reality works.
    Doesn’t matter if federal money comes back to the province, got it.

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    Prioritizing healthcare by race. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    Prioritizing healthcare by race. Nice.
    It's kert's world, we're just living in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    If we were making business decisions for EMS the smart business choice would be to prioritize two things: overdoses and FN calls.

    Overdoses have quicker turnover and are relatively easy to treat. Low resources and allows higher number of calls means more efficient outcomes.
    I suggested this in a post above. We need some dudes on scooters with naloxone. Get an OD call? Drive by and throw some naloxone at them like a paperboy....then onto the next.

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    Turbo Medic. As well as more money for the healthcare system. Do you think reform of the process of how people are recruited and the criteria set for job postings should change? Do you think this is a big component of addressing the issues you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    Prioritizing healthcare by race. Nice.
    Business is business, get provincial healthcare paid for by the feds is good for the books. Leave your emotions out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Business is business, get provincial healthcare paid for by the feds is good for the books. Leave your emotions out of it.
    I know you're trying desperately to sound clever - but you actually just sound like a racist. I know you prefer the term segregationist, but it all comes back to race essentialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    I know you're trying desperately to sound clever - but you actually just sound like a racist. I know you prefer the term segregationist, but it all comes back to race essentialism.
    Why’d you ask TurboMedic how many calls were for FN people again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Why’d you ask TurboMedic how many calls were for FN people again?
    Because I want to understand the social impact of segregationists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Because I want to understand the social impact of segregationists.
    And what conclusion did you come to, aside from realizing that you don’t understand the actual pressures on healthcare system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    And what conclusion did you come to?
    None - I was not presented with any data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    You want business efficiency, until you need to use healthcare, then do you want you/your loved ones/friends treated like numbers? Or do you want empathy and care, which is the primary pillar of health care?
    And we get neither now, so congrats on supporting a system that fails at both.

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    Business is business, get provincial healthcare paid for by the feds is good for the books. Leave your emotions out of it.
    Provincial healthcare doesn't get paid for by the feds you dolt, it gets paid for by us, the taxpayer who funds the feds. Just because out of the pot of money the feds collect a piggy bank labeled "Alberta healthcare funding" is given back to us doesn't mean we received something for free.

    As for the whole overdose situation, there is a real easy way to handle it. Screw paying someone on a bike to throw noxalone around, OD patients go to the bottom of the list.

    Oh, and before you call me heartless, they literally will not give transplant patients in Canada transplants if they don't have their covid vaccines. So fuck off that we can't let druggies die, they do it to other people all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    None - I was not presented with any data.
    You’re making service suggestions without data? How dumb.

    https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/2/E37

    https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentr...13-021-06415-2

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    The Chretien Liberals drastically cut back health care transfer money.

    It'll happen soon enough again.

    Good jorb everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    You’re making service suggestions without data? How dumb.

    https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/2/E37

    https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentr...13-021-06415-2
    That's why I was asking for the data. I will always have a suggestion, and I will modify my suggestions based on the best data I have. However, I suspect that my suggestions are still better than the management of the people who are currently informed but incapable of making good decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    That's why I was asking for the data. I will always have a suggestion, and I will modify my suggestions based on the best data I have. However, I suspect that my suggestions are still better than the management of the people who are currently informed but incapable of making good decisions.
    Obviously it was the evil Jason Kenney that was telling health care workers to not triage FN people properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Obviously it was the evil Jason Kenney that was telling health care workers to not triage FN people properly.
    Both of the studies that kert posted basically started with a premise of "inequity". It's very on-brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Both of the studies that kert posted basically started with a premise of "inequity". It's very on-brand.
    Dude, they're studies. On websites. They completely represent the truth, you conspiritard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    Provincial healthcare doesn't get paid for by the feds you dolt, it gets paid for by us, the taxpayer who funds the feds. Just because out of the pot of money the feds collect a piggy bank labeled "Alberta healthcare funding" is given back to us doesn't mean we received something for free.
    Anytime a taxpayer funded cost can get uploaded, it’s a good thing.

    When that piggy bank gets its label changed to read something else and goes somewhere else, that’s Alberta taxpayer money not coming back to Alberta. You whine about it being taken, but then think it’s irrelevant where that money actually gets spent. It’s like Albertans want to lose their money.

    As for the whole overdose situation, there is a real easy way to handle it. Screw paying someone on a bike to throw noxalone around, OD patients go to the bottom of the list.

    Oh, and before you call me heartless, they literally will not give transplant patients in Canada transplants if they don't have their covid vaccines. So fuck off that we can't let druggies die, they do it to other people all the time.
    So that’s a ‘no’ on basing healthcare on outcomes?

    Druggies aren’t getting bumped up the transplant list ahead of unvaccinated people so I don’t really know why you’re bringing it up. But druggies will see similar prioritization as treatment drugs continue to see supply struggles. Transplant patients get prioritized based on outcomes because supply is so short. When the data showed that Covid-infected transplant patients had a higher mortality rate, it’s an easy prioritization to make. How else would you want the decision to be made?
    When a transplant patient needs noxalone and they’re giving it to a druggie instead, I’ll be right there with you in pointing out the injustice and poor decision making.
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