If your Land Rover hasn’t died with a car full of people somewhere with no cell reception have you truly experienced LR ownership?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If your Land Rover hasn’t died with a car full of people somewhere with no cell reception have you truly experienced LR ownership?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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British vehicles gonna British.
Oddly, it's been dead reliable. It also only has 80k, so the best has yet to come.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My goal is to own an X308 or X350 XJR. Some day.
(and the requisite beater Corolla to drive the other 51 weeks of the year).
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I've been making the joke for eons that Jaguars should be sold in pairs, thus giving you at least a full 3 months of consistent transportation.
What Jag owner doesn’t have a Rover lying around for when it’s in the shop.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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Basically ready to head to the NE.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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My buddys dad had the X350 XJR back in Scotland...what a beast that was, and he drove it like he stole itThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sold it before warranty ran out and it did stay in the town for a few years with the second owner
Although that was when Jaguar was owned by Ford, so probably more reliable than now since it was basically a Ford Fusion with a bodykit
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Originally posted by arian_ma
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That's a pretty reasonable goal! I wouldn't do an X308. That was the era they were just *starting* to put it all together alongside Ford. They had still not ironed out all their typical Jaguar issues yet, but they were still better than Jaguars of yesteryear - in particular in the electrical department.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The x350 is not a bad car at all, and still holds all that old-school Jaguar charm with the wood, etc. if you like that sort of thing. (I'm mixed. It feels more lux than the newer Jags, but it's pretty dated) They went with an aluminum body, which helped it a great deal. Of course, you get the typical expensive maintenance, but they had improved their quality significantly by then. From a reliability standpoint, I feel Jaguar's best years were the late 2000's when they were coming up with new design with Ford for the XF and the XJ but before Tata started getting their hands in there trying to make them cheaper and more mainstream. Even still, newer Jags are a far cry from the constant nightmares of the past and it's a shame they still have that rep. Haters gonna hate.
Ok, as my last entry into this saga, it is now resolved.
Turns out that the ground the original shop installed was inadequate and had major resistance. This allowed some power through and the vehicle to turn over, but didn't allow all the computers to fire up to allow for operation. This explains all the ecu communication issues as well.
I am going to speak to the first shop since they really shouldn't be charging for work that they don't do properly. This cost me thousands and they need to be aware why I will not be going back.
As for the starter burning out conveniently at the first shop, I will continue to take everyone's advice and just let it go. There is no way to prove 100% they did anything wrong, as incredibly coincidental as the timing is.
I know it's fun to rag on Land Rover and all, but in the end that really had nothing to do with anything. This was just simply a mechanic who needs more experience.
Last edited by Kloubek; 08-24-2022 at 12:27 PM.
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Glad to hear that its back working. I gotta say the LR references in other threads was super fun.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Even I found them funny. Though clearly the humor got lost on me quickly in this actual thread.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Except that you can move a grounding location in pretty much every other car ever made (but not LR or Ferrari) and everything will still work...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Let me say again, the Ohms were ridiculous. Which means either it wasn't making enough contact with the mounting location, or the cable used was inadequate for the load. Either way, no, it has nothing to do with LR but more about how electricity works.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by Kloubek; 08-24-2022 at 02:16 PM.
Well, a poorly installed ground is a poorly installed ground.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But don't put your head in the sand - LR electronics are extremely particular about the number of millivolts that they are fed.
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I'm not. LR electronics ARE super sensitive and can be a real pain.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That wasn't the case here for sure though. The cable the 1st mechanic installed showed 12 megaOhms of resistance, whereas now that it is fixed, it's at 12.1 ohms. I'm pretty sure a ground that is allowing that low of electricity flow is going to be a problem in ANY vehicle. The fact it even turned over at the 1st shop is borderline astonishing.
I would also like to state that my assessment (and the belief at TRS) that my alternator was toast turned out to be correct. Now that I'm running again, the alternator is quiet as a mouse with steady voltage supply. So at least the 1st shop installed that correctly.
Last edited by Kloubek; 08-25-2022 at 12:51 AM.
I'm willing to bet the first tech misread or had the wrong setting on his multimeter.
Just a guess.