Alberta Provincial Police study- For or against?

[Tik-Tok]

There's definitely no buttfuck nowhere Alberta, right? So zero chance of being sent there. Especially with all the extra detachments Albertans will be demanding.

[kertejud2]

I think even the NDP would consider a 50% raise to public service employees as excessive.

[gwill]

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Who are the Alberta police going to hire? The same inept RCMP officers, or is there a cache of good people somewhere that for some reason aren't currently working as police officers?

It kind of seems like the new police would just be the old police, with different stickers on the car doors.

rcmp training requires you going to Saskatchewan for months and If you pass they randomly send you to another province that you didn't originally live In. You get 2 provide 2 preferred choices but your told you won't get them.

Had a buddy go through the training a couple years back. He got posted in northern ab which was a huge win for him for not being sent across the country. Sounds like there's some preferred locations people want to go. None of which is alberta.

[ExtraSlow]

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There's definitely no buttfuck nowhere Alberta, right? So zero chance of being sent there. Especially with all the extra detachments Albertans will be demanding.

I mean, if you live in Alberta, the distance and variety of the buttfuck places are both reduced. I mean, even high level or manning or fort chip are within 10 hour drive of civilization, which is not true of all the varied buttfuck places RCMP could send ya.

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The biggest problem with buttfuck nowhere isn’t the location, it’s the….communities that RCMP need to babysit.

[Misterman]

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I think even the NDP would consider a 50% raise to public service employees as excessive.

No, no they wouldn't. But that's an irrelevant point anyway since nobody would be getting "Raises". New recruits would simply be getting a reasonable salary commensurate with the current industry and living costs. Something the RCMP does not do, which is half the reason they get such piss poor applicants, because you get what you pay for.

[kertejud2]

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No, no they wouldn't. But that's an irrelevant point anyway since nobody would be getting "Raises". New recruits would simply be getting a reasonable salary commensurate with the current industry and living costs. Something the RCMP does not do, which is half the reason they get such piss poor applicants, because you get what you pay for.

The RCMP has already given raises (retroactive to boot) to get in line with the highest paid police forces to help with recruitment and retention. Another $40K on top of that would make them the highest paid police force in the country by almost $40K a year. I’m not sure that would fly in a province where voters get mad when doctors are getting paid only slightly more than other provinces.

[Misterman]

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The RCMP has already given raises (retroactive to boot) to get in line with the highest paid police forces to help with recruitment and retention. Another $40K on top of that would make them the highest paid police force in the country by almost $40K a year. I’m not sure that would fly in a province where voters get mad when doctors are getting paid only slightly more than other provinces.

Can't say I've seen anybody upset about doctors pay, or EPS and CPS pay for that matter. I'm guessing there would be about zero outcry for APP to be making salary in line with EPS/CPS.

[ThePenIsMightier]

[kertejud2]

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Can't say I've seen anybody upset about doctors pay

You probably voted for them. It seems so long ago in the before times of 2019, but bringing doctor pay ' back down in line with other provinces averages' was a core part of the Alberta's healthcare reforms, which included cutting doctor compensation and unilaterally cancelling contracts. Albertans don't like having the highest paid public employees.

I'm guessing there would be about zero outcry for APP to be making salary in line with EPS/CPS.

So the recruitment strategy has gone from 'an extra $40K/year' to 'just matching what the RCMP makes now'? Brings us back to the original statement: It kind of seems like the new police would just be the old police, with different stickers on the car doors.

[Misterman]

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You probably voted for them. It seems so long ago in the before times of 2019, but bringing doctor pay ' back down in line with other provinces averages' was a core part of the Alberta's healthcare reforms, which included cutting doctor compensation and unilaterally cancelling contracts. Albertans don't like having the highest paid public employees.



So the recruitment strategy has gone from 'an extra $40K/year' to 'just matching what the RCMP makes now'? Brings us back to the original statement: It kind of seems like the new police would just be the old police, with different stickers on the car doors.

It's all good. Nobody here expects you to understand numbers or logic.

[kertejud2]

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It's all good. Nobody here expects you to understand numbers or logic.

RCMP Constable Salary: $106,576
RCMP Corporal Salary: $116,703
RCMP Sergeant Salary: $127,204
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/regula...nual-rates-pay

EPS Constable Salary: $71,195-$115,825
EPS Sergeant Salary: $127,514
https://www.joineps.ca/WhyEPS/Salary

CPS Constable Salary: $67,621-$116,813
CPS Sergeant Salary: $124-842-$130,728
https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/w...disclosure.pdf

So now that we see the numbers are, are you suggesting we pay RCMP Constables $146K/year to attract better candidates?

[Misterman]

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RCMP Constable Salary: $106,576
RCMP Corporal Salary: $116,703
RCMP Sergeant Salary: $127,204
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/regula...nual-rates-pay

EPS Constable Salary: $71,195-$115,825
EPS Sergeant Salary: $127,514
https://www.joineps.ca/WhyEPS/Salary

CPS Constable Salary: $67,621-$116,813
CPS Sergeant Salary: $124-842-$130,728
https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/w...disclosure.pdf

So now that we see the numbers are, are you suggesting we pay RCMP Constables $146K/year to attract better candidates?

I will say, it's rather hilarious that the strawman you're using is literally making my point of how we get no value from the RCMP, and taking it a step further by correcting my awareness of their pay increase.

[ExtraSlow]

Yes

[zechs]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9148025/s...kye-sanderson/

The RCMP is full of incompetent idiots. Obviously we should keep them as our police force.

[Shlade]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/albert...e_4859158.html

Edit: shit link above that requires login... Heres another
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/albertans...llot-1.6152957

Looking more like they're headed in this direction. My Fiance says more and more members are thinking this is happening.

The provincial election next year will be the deciding fate im sure.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Making police provincial fixes problems.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...mond-1.6797839

TL;DR is:
In 2017, Constable Jason Redmond (OPP) was hanging out with a drunk chick doing blow and figured he'd rape her after she passed out, film it with his phone and show it to her and several others in order to mock the drunk girl. He had time on his hands since he has been on suspended, paid leave ($121k/yr) since 2015 for drug trafficking charges (convicted in 2018). He's also facing 17 other charges for being a puke-stain involving multiple other victims.

[ExtraSlow]

Fake news nobody doing blow goes to sleep.

[tirebob]

What does that dickhead have to do with having a provincial police force? It really should be a thread of its own. That fuckwad deserves far more attention than having it buried here.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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What does that dickhead have to do with having a provincial police force? It really should be a thread of its own. That fuckwad deserves far more attention than having it buried here.

I was just suggesting that both Provincial and RCMP are capable of hiring a cancerous growth and then completely floundering pathetic attempts to get rid of it.