Has anyone done any engineering work or sold oil tools to the Middle East?

[SJW]

I'm just wondering why it's so fucking painful.

Insane amounts of paperwork/drawings/fuckarounds etc.

[ExtraSlow]

It's painful because they have armies of local citizens who are guaranteed employment and they need shit for them to do.
Highly reccomend selling to an established local service company if you can manage it. AL Mansoori,, Al, Massood, one of those. Not that they are much better, but you don't have to suck as many dicks to get shit done, and at least they can handle shipping and importation, which is another fuck around.

Also, take everything I say with a grain of salt, I mostly daily to sell my shit over there. I'm writing a bid for fucking Iraq today that I know is not going to be successful. #rewarding.

[Disoblige]

Decline the bid, ez.

[ExtraSlow]

SJW does not have that option. The benefit he has is equipment that is unique and valuable.

I usually have the opposite problem.

[SJW]

I've been submitting paper work for 3 years now and have sold one prototype. It's all a fucking money grab from these people.

[SkiBum5.0]

I once managed a Canadian division of a service company that “sold” ~150 commissioning packages for land rig power units owned by Saudi Aramco. Guess how many were delivered? I avoid all work over there for SA. Internationals, okay.

SJW, what particular field are in? You can PM.

[SJW]

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I once managed a Canadian division of a service company that “sold” ~150 commissioning packages for land rig power units owned by Saudi Aramco. Guess how many were delivered? I avoid all work over there for SA. Internationals, okay.

SJW, what particular field are in? You can PM.

PM'd

[dirtsniffer]

I'm only involved at a cursory level, but it seems like a fucking racket. We generally have a local partner that we funnel things through.

[Proyecto2000]

I have wasted a lot of hours on tenders for Kurdistan, Middle east, Congo, Venezuela and Mexico over the years. Usually a big pain in the butt with all the clarification questions, low ball negations, document requests / submissions and after all that BS they always seem to go radio silent or they keep telling you how the project is delayed so they are not ready to commit and send a PO.

[ExtraSlow]

Fuck I have Columbian and Venezuelan ones Cong extremely soon.

[ThePenIsMightier]

"ok you do for free, ok??!"

Eat a metric tonne of cocks.

[Disoblige]

This is the industrial equivalent of Kijiji but with more steps.

[SJW]

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This is the industrial equivalent of Kijiji but with more steps.

Couldn't have made a better description. Here I sit making more drawings for more people to mull over.

[JfuckinC]

My step dad spends a lot of time over there, you just gotta go visit to get the sales done fellas

Sounds hot though.

[davidI]

I've been on the buyer side in the ME so a lot of these comments make me lol

It's true there are always a lot of delays, often due to the Government's role in Production Sharing Agreements and their desire to approve costs but also sometimes due to security or logistical challenges in getting materials and people on-site.

Some companies/people (like me) work really hard to do things cleanly and with integrity but other companies/people just do whatever is easiest which often means giving in to the local suppliers who are friends with the government to obtain their blessing. Although to be fair, a lot of Canadian supply deals still get done through friends and hockey tickets and such so it's not necessarily all that different.

[SJW]

Ho lee fuk, now they're asking for a bigger design to be done of my previous casing tool. Start buying the other tool and we'll talk. Of course i'm not the boss so now i'm in design mode. Ugh.

[ExtraSlow]

When you are done that can you make a smaller one for me? Like 1/4 scale should be appropriate.

[SJW]

There's one on my desk. You can come in and play with it.

[ExtraSlow]

Oh I'm not falling for THAT again.

[schurchill39]

No, but I will!