LOL Sovereignty Act

[kertejud2]

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Don't like concentrating power in the cabinet instead of with the legislature. Dislike that concept quite strongly. Dang, there really IS something in there to be upset about. Thanks beyond ( and @2Legit2Quit specifically) for cluing me in!

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I haven't read the legislation yet, just got home.

But I can get a general sense of whether it is good or not based on who is sounding like a whiny little bitch.

So far it sounds like a good idea.

Awkward.

[Buster]

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Awkward.

naw, ES will come around

[ExtraSlow]

I don't find it awkward at all to have disagreements with my friends. Would be weird if it never happened.
Plus I change my opinion all the time. I am always suspicious of anyone who never changes thier mind.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Gettin spicey!!

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I'm all for being the squeaky wheel. That portion doesn't concern me. It's bypassing the legislative assembly and amending laws as they see fit that I find concerning. It gives DS absolute power, as far as I can tell.

[suntan]

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Here's the bill: https://docs.assembly.ab.ca/LADDAR_f...9_bill-001.pdf

Construe it however you want but it would allow her cabinet to bypass the legislative assembly and amend laws as they see fit.

The bill limits the time frame someone could ask for a judicial review to 30 days instead of 6 months.

Also this is straight lol -
The bill also aims to protect the government and provincial entities from civil proceedings launched due to consequences that arise from the act.

If Notley was proposing this everyone would be losing their damn minds.

I personally don't want Looney Toons wild rose Danielle Smith modifying laws as she sees fit but if you think this is keeping Ottawa out then there's no changing your mind.

This is over reaching power to me but to each their own.

Not sure where you’re getting any of that.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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Not sure where you’re getting any of that.

I haven't had time to read through it myself, yet, but:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...-act-1.6668175
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/smith-ta...ourt-1.6173666

[2Legit2Quit]

Or Shandro confirming it with Dani behind him: https://twitter.com/TheBreakdownAB/s...50133772685313

[Tik-Tok]

Anyone who wants separation, I'm not sure what else you were expecting. There's no chance Alberta's population would ever vote in favour of it, so it needs to be forced.

[Lex350]

DS is doing her best to get the NDP back in power after the next election.

[kertejud2]

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Anyone who wants separation, I'm not sure what else you were expecting. There's no chance Alberta's population would ever vote in favour of it, so it needs to be forced.

This is more that they know legislation like this can be toxic for investment, so they need to give themselves protections to overrule the legislature in case they actually vote for a resolution that does anything, to take the teeth out of it.

[Buster]

None of this is ideal.

But you either live in a functioning democracy, or you do not. Given the nature of Confederation, we do not. Smith is not to blame for that.

[suntan]

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I haven't had time to read through it myself, yet, but:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...-act-1.6668175
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/smith-ta...ourt-1.6173666

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Or Shandro confirming it with Dani behind him: https://twitter.com/TheBreakdownAB/s...50133772685313

If, on a motion of a member of Executive Council, the
Legislative Assembly approves a resolution that
(a) states that the resolution is made in accordance with this
Act,
(b) states that, in the opinion of the Legislative Assembly, a
federal initiative
(i) is unconstitutional on the basis that it
(A) intrudes into an area of provincial legislative
jurisdiction under the Constitution of Canada, or
(B) violates the rights and freedoms of one or more
Albertans under the Canadian Charter of Rights
and Freedoms,
or
(ii) causes or is anticipated to cause harm to Albertans,
(c) sets out the nature of the harm, if the resolution states that,
in the opinion of the Legislative Assembly, a federal
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initiative causes or is anticipated to cause harm to
Albertans, and
(d) identifies a measure or measures that the Lieutenant
Governor in Council should consider taking in respect of
the federal initiative,
the Lieutenant Governor in Council may take the actions described
in section 4

So limited in scope to those things that the feds do that impinge on Alberta.

[tonytiger55]

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I haven't had time to read through it myself, yet, but:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...-act-1.6668175
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/smith-ta...ourt-1.6173666

I was listening to CBC radio on the way home this morning. It was a interesting perspective.
If he province does not like something the federal government is doing. There is a long long legal process. What the Sovereignty act does(I have not read it yet, I am going by the impartial CBC radio broadcast) is throws the legal ball onto the Federal side.

In answer to Kerts post about what the federal government does. I don't think people really understand how the Federal government process can be weaponised against it citizens.
The Federal government uses different commuities, intiatives and councils to inact polices that can harm the provincial economy, take away the rights of its people with out due course knowing that it can do what it wants because any challenge would be a long legal process. If challenged ministers can say, I did not 'directly' do this. This body of power comes from so and so commitie, council, body etc. They can deflect responsbility. You can already see this happening with the current investigation of the emergency powers act.
Thats the issue. During the pandemic legitimate questions were raised and dare I say it, some we not asked by the opposition.

This act throws it back to Federal Government. Now as per my post I have not read the act yet and the legistlation has not been tested.

First they will come for the crazies and those that will oppose them. Then once they are controlled, they will come for you.

[Yolobimmer]

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Or Shandro confirming it with Dani behind him: https://twitter.com/TheBreakdownAB/s...50133772685313

He thought growing the little pedo mustache would make us forget what a pos crook he is.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm all for "throwing the ball to the federal side" for actions the province takes that may or may not meet the legal details of the current constitution. Kind of a "watch me" sort of attitude.

[Thaco]

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I haven't read the legislation yet, just got home.

But I can get a general sense of whether it is good or not based on who is sounding like a whiny little bitch.

So far it sounds like a good idea.

sounds like that's how you form all your opinions, why change now?

[Yolobimmer]

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sounds like that's how you form all your opinions, why change now?

That and he has a conversation with himself and his 4 Alts. Lol.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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I am always suspicious of anyone who never changes their mind.

So does that mean that eventually we'll all have to come around on yolo.......accept Kert as the grand authority on literally every topic....Thaco as someone who has the capacity to think deeper than an emotional response to a Google news headline snippet?

Outrageous! Egregious! Preposterous!!

[Buster]

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sounds like that's how you form all your opinions, why change now?

dont get cute with me.