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    Default Help needed, garage door not staying up

    My warehouse guy decided to spray our garage door opener with some wd40 to lube the areas and now when we open it up, it doesnt stay open and just drops down slowly til it closes. Its the lift master side mount med duty. Tried everything and google but i guess this is not common or im a moron and cant search properly. Anyone know the potential causes or have a trusted repair guy? Thanks in advance
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    and I did not have the only say in the matter (most people just want it done ASAP and don't care about quality).
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    Lubing a track won't cause this. Sounds like either the emergency pull isn't fully reset or your springs have failed.

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    Calling Tony now, Thanks!

    They lubed the unit itself too, the pulley wheels and around there
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    Lubing a track won't cause this. Sounds like either the emergency pull isn't fully reset or your springs have failed.
    I also dont see an emergency pull but this is a commercial door and if the springs failed would the door still be able to be opened? The door opens like normal but once it opens all the way it stops as normal and then just slowly drops down, tried to stop it mid way and same thing.
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    Disclaimer: this won't be helpful at this point, but it bears mentioning...

    WD-40 is not really a lubricant, it's a penetrant. It might have some lubricating properties, but I wouldn't using it for that purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjstare View Post
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    Disclaimer: this won't be helpful at this point, but it bears mentioning...

    WD-40 is not really a lubricant, it's a penetrant. It might have some lubricating properties, but I wouldn't using it for that purpose.
    It also sucks as a penetrant and really serves no purpose I have found.

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    It also sucks as a penetrant and really serves no purpose I have found.
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    WD-40 is great at displacing. Use it to clean out areas before using the real lubricant. The solvent flushes old shit out really well, when the solvent flashes off it leaves behind the light oil as a temporary protectant. Then use your preferred lubricant as a final step.

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    Usually it's the spring that needs tightening.
    Caution should be used. Enough force to end your life if done wrong.

    Lube to keep your door up? Laughed at the premise.
    Works for other stuff, why not the door? Lol

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    if lube is not working to keep it up, you may need some time of over the counter or prescription medication.

    However, If the door stays up for more than 4 hours, call your health care provider.
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    likely needs the spring tension adjusted, might be one of the set screws isnt completely right and it's slowly backing off the tension, cant really see how this would be related to lubing it, maybe just coincidental.
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    If the door is connected to a jackshaft opener as you say, I don't see how the door could fall even with an undertensioned spring. Jackshaft openers are worm-gear driven and it should be basically impossible to backdrive one. There should be a double-clamp that connects the opener to the jackshaft, make sure it's tight and and lubricant-free. If he went buck wild with the lubricant he may have gotten it into the clamp and it's slipping on the jackshaft or opener output shaft.

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    If the door is connected to a jackshaft opener as you say, I don't see how the door could fall even with an undertensioned spring. Jackshaft openers are worm-gear driven and it should be basically impossible to backdrive one. There should be a double-clamp that connects the opener to the jackshaft, make sure it's tight and and lubricant-free. If he went buck wild with the lubricant he may have gotten it into the clamp and it's slipping on the jackshaft or opener output shaft.
    My main door has a side lift and when its up it will creep down ever so slightly. Haven't been bothered to look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledan View Post
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    if lube is not working to keep it up, you may need some time of over the counter or prescription medication.

    However, If the door stays up for more than 4 hours, call your health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    It also sucks as a penetrant and really serves no purpose I have found.
    Agreed

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    if lube is not working to keep it up, you may need some time of over the counter or prescription medication.

    However, If the door stays up for more than 4 hours, call your health care provider.
    I was actually going to say something viagra related but figured yall would derail this lol

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    likely needs the spring tension adjusted, might be one of the set screws isnt completely right and it's slowly backing off the tension, cant really see how this would be related to lubing it, maybe just coincidental.
    I actually saw 1 thing mentioning the spring but yeah i aint messing with that.

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    If he went buck wild with the lubricant he may have gotten it into the clamp and it's slipping on the jackshaft or opener output shaft.
    I was thinking something very similar or it could be the same because i have no idea what the parts are called but there was a rubber belt that goes around 2 pulley wheels and i thought that was slipping but it wasnt.


    Thanks for all the replies but i got a guy coming tomorrow AM. Ill update this once we figure it out
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    WD40 is a cleaner that evaporates quickly. It has no other use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Usually it's the spring that needs tightening.
    Caution should be used. Enough force to end your life if done wrong.
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    likely needs the spring tension adjusted, might be one of the set screws isnt completely right and it's slowly backing off the tension, cant really see how this would be related to lubing it, maybe just coincidental.
    You guys called it! It was the spring tension or lack of. Found a guy on FB to come yesterday just to tell me he had no idea and to call lift master(which i shouldve from the start) and had another guy booked for this afternoon but it was a $250 charge just to come out.
    You'd think this would be a more common thing but i searched all over and only found one mention of potentially the spring so i thought it wasnt but when my trusted beyond brothers mr2mike and Thaco mentioned it I had to try. Went up and had the bars in and not gonna lie it was pretty intimidating knowing how dangerous it could be but once i loosened the tightening bolts there was little to no pressure on the bars so i turned it a 1/4 turn twice and tried the door and you could tell right away it was holding better but still slipping a bit so i did another 2 turns and bingo.

    PM me your email mr2mike and Thaco, ill send you guys some e gift cards for your help. Really appreciate this boys
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    LOL I originally said the spring may have failed Ok fine it didn't but it still had issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    LOL I originally said the spring may have failed Ok fine it didn't but it still had issues.
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