BCHL Leaves Hockey Canada

[schurchill39]

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I think if you're 20, you are leaving Hockey Canada regardless of where you go (but I'm not sure).
Plus, there's a reasonable number of other aged players any given year who will not return or will be leaving for another jurisdiction like USA or Europe.
At the end of the day, this risk doesn't have much legs and it's fucking these teams out of roughly 11 of their last 16 games for Brooks or 9 of their last 12 games for Okotoks, as examples.
Meanwhile a team like Canmore gets to miss 8 of their last 14 games as corollary punishment when they haven't even done anything.

We had an Okotoks Oilers player out helping my sons practice the other night and he was saying they only have 2 games left of what should have been 14. I asked if they could just have games on their own terms with the other 4 teams joining the BCHL and he said its because they weren't sanctioned by anyone so insurance wouldn't cover anyone if they got hurt. He said the players don't really have much insight into whats happening but they are definitely feeling the brunt of these decisions which absolutely sucks for them. I wish there was a bigger deal being made about this to help pile on the Hockey Canada controversy and realize how much of a poorly run organization they are for many reasons besides their handling of assaults.

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Yeah hard to get very excited about high school sports.

We get it Buster, you don't have a particular interest in this specific topic. I am sure there is a controversial MEGA thread you might find more insightful

[ExtraSlow]

You are right, this is as bad as me posting in the apple thread, or killy posting in the ford thread. Adding zero value.

[sexualbanana]

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We had an Okotoks Oilers player out helping my sons practice the other night and he was saying they only have 2 games left of what should have been 14. I asked if they could just have games on their own terms with the other 4 teams joining the BCHL and he said its because they weren't sanctioned by anyone so insurance wouldn't cover anyone if they got hurt. He said the players don't really have much insight into whats happening but they are definitely feeling the brunt of these decisions which absolutely sucks for them. I wish there was a bigger deal being made about this to help pile on the Hockey Canada controversy and realize how much of a poorly run organization they are for many reasons besides their handling of assaults.

I was talking to a friend who played in the AJHL a long time ago and went the NCAA route, he doesn't really understand what the point of leaving was either. Unless something has changed since then, he doesn't think playing in the AJHL hindered him from playing, or getting recruited for, college hockey. Leaving HC may just be the main reason and everything else is just to widen the net of benefits, but we don't know.

[killramos]

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You are right, this is as bad as me posting in the apple thread, or killy posting in the ford thread. Adding zero value.

I feel seen

[ThePenIsMightier]

I thought I updated, but maybe not... So the 5 teams that the AJHL completely fucked over wisely chose to expedite their departure to the BCHL and are already finishing their season there and will participate in their playoffs. Brooks will quite likely win the league, actually.

And, now the BCHL is picking players off from other leagues that aren't trades. They just take the players and the SJHL (for example) gets nothing in return.
https://discoverestevan.com/articles...leave-for-bchl

Hockey Canada is falling apart and is too stupid to realize how fucked they are.

[ExtraSlow]

I feel like hockey Canada falling apart is probably the best outcome here.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I feel like hockey Canada falling apart is probably the best outcome here.

I think you're correct. The Americans are catching up to us at an alarming rate and we can't afford to sit on our ass only to panic when they pull ahead.

[ExtraSlow]

If you mean the head-to-head play of our elite national teams, they are arguably already ahead. Shouldn't be surprising, they invest more because they are a larger country.

[dirtsniffer]

I guess we will see at the Olympics, but the best of the best, beating the US will be a challenge. Thankfully we have mcjesus. I'd still think if both countries had to field 5 teams, canada would have a pretty large advantage.

[vengie]

The Olympics are a lagging indicator.
Most countries are starting to catch and will soon surpass Canada at the development levels.

[SKR]

I think all of Canada's failures in international hockey can be blamed solely on using Quebec goalies, defensemen and coaches. Forwards are fine. Goalies and coaches must come from the WHL, no exceptions.

[max_boost]

That team America looks formidable
Good luck Canada
Stuart skinner might be your goalie lol

[ExtraSlow]

Team America, great movie.

[max_boost]

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Team America, great movie.

Fuck ya!

[asp integra]

Carter Hart cleared in time to play Olympics? Canada is seriously lacking in goal, we are solid everywhere else though.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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The Olympics are a lagging indicator.
Most countries are starting to catch and will soon surpass Canada at the development levels.

This. World Juniors are less of a lagging indicator and the US just won that. Canada needs to act to get the ship pointed in the right direction again. Instead, they are focused on penalizing anyone who has touched the BCHL and that's almost literally the dumbest thing they could possibly be wasting their time on.

[Team_Mclaren]

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This. World Juniors are less of a lagging indicator and the US just won that. Canada needs to act to get the ship pointed in the right direction again. Instead, they are focused on penalizing anyone who has touched the BCHL and that's almost literally the dumbest thing they could possibly be wasting their time on.

But world juniors lag quite far from best on best. A great player plays for a long time (15+ years). We still have a lot of elite players playing in the next 10 years. But development is definitely lagging behind.

[jutes]

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Instead, they are focused on penalizing anyone who has touched the BCHL and that's almost literally the dumbest thing they could possibly be wasting their time on.

They are focusing on woke policies and making sure no one's feelings are hurt. Liberals have infected Hockey Canada. Wearing bathing suits to shower in locker rooms is probably the stupidest crap they could come up with. Fire everyone involved with Hockey Canada.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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But world juniors lag quite far from best on best. A great player plays for a long time (15+ years). We still have a lot of elite players playing in the next 10 years. But development is definitely lagging behind.

True. Best players will always be the best but the general team mentality, philosophy and coaching strategy are what need to quickly evolve.

[r3ccOs]

though I dislike the fact that Jr. Hockey is going to be further fragmented, the long and short is that the BCHL has attracted the best non-CHL talent, giving developing players more years to play high level hockey and has put through the most Div #1 players. This is while keeping a fairly competitive league, whereas leagues like the AJ and MJ have had teams absolutely dominant for what feels like decades.

Also this absolves them from all the rules that are associated with the number of American/International players and possibly under 17 and over 20... as well as possibly other stilly standards like the 16 year olds having to wear cages and neck protectors.

The issue IMO is it will only be a matter of time until Hockey Canada sanctions BCHL players from being eligible from playing in international events (World Jrs.) and until NCAA deems BCHL, like the CHL considers contacts signed as 'professional'. Which could result in lose lose. I hope not, but could eventually be the strong arm maneuvers