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    A lot of people get hung up on the 'Mid level LC vs base GX' comparison, but it really depends on how its being used. The Mid level LC (Premium Package) comes with all the offroad and safety tech, Leather, upgraded stereo and cool box, where the same priced Base/Signature GX has none of that, vinyl seats but also seats 7. (Whatever their propriety vinyl brand is called)

    Even the comparison with the LC Premium and Overtrail is tough, as each gets things the other doesnt. (No doubt by design) Same goes when you add in the Overtrail+. There are some features like the cool box that are only in the LC Premium and OverTrail+. It will be interesting to see how many Overtrails get sold compared to the other models..

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    It’s also worth noting that the packages in the US don’t really mirror the Canadian trims at all. So until we see the full list of LC features we are pissing in the wind arguing about this.

    For example, there is not a single option box to check on the OT+ and Executive trims here. In the states you can check another $3500USD of options in the OT+ to match what’s on the Canadian trims.

    Apples and Oranges for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo View Post
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    Been living under a rock the last few years? Some Toyotas are over $100k now.
    Vehicle pricing is absolutely ridiculous today. These prices have been the best thing to ever happen to me as for the first time in my adult life I'm totally fine sitting out and holding off on new car purchases. I'm simply not comfortable paying today's pricing for non-special vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    It’s also worth noting that the packages in the US don’t really mirror the Canadian trims at all. So until we see the full list of LC features we are pissing in the wind arguing about this.

    For example, there is not a single option box to check on the OT+ and Executive trims here. In the states you can check another $3500USD of options in the OT+ to match what’s on the Canadian trims.

    Apples and Oranges for now.
    Full list of packages and trims for LC in Canada was posted already..(Got the breakdown from the dealer in December) and now on the Toyota Canada website. Its basically 1958, regular, premium or first edition. Worth noting, the next model up keeps the same items as the one before plus adds on the new list. First Edition has some premium options removed though. No other substantial options. I added the prices that were leaked below:
    https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/regi...es#/al/line-up

    Land Cruiser 1958 $69,290

    8” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    6 Speaker Audio System
    Wireless Apple CarPlay® & Android AutoTM Compatibility
    6-way Manually Adjustable Driver & Passenger Seats
    Heated Front Seats & Heated Leather Steering Wheel
    18” Alloy Wheels
    Retro-style Round LED Headlamps
    Full-time 4WD
    Locking Rear Differential
    Downhill Assist & Crawl Control
    Drive Mode Select (3 modes)
    Blind Spot Monitor with Rear Cross Traffic Alert
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    Land Cruiser $77,290

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    10 Speaker Audio System
    12.3” Full Digital Gauges
    Wireless Charging
    Power Back Door
    3-Zone Auto Air Conditioning
    8-way Power Adjustable Driver Seat
    SofTex® Seats and Ventilated Front Seats
    Moonroof
    Heated Side Mirrors
    Rectangle LED Headlamps
    Wireless Charger
    Multi-Terrain Monitor & Multi-Terrain Select
    Front Stabilizer Disconnect Mechanism (SDM)
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    Land Cruiser Premium Package $83,290

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect (3-yr trial)1
    Front Cross Traffic Alert and Lane Change Assist
    Driver Monitor and Traffic Jam Assist Capable
    Digital Key
    Head-Up Display
    Center Console Cooler Box
    Driver Seat Memory Function and 8-way Power Adjustable Passenger Seat
    Digital Rear View Mirror
    14 Speaker JBL Premium Audio System
    Leather Seats
    20” Alloy Wheels
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    First Edition $89,980

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    Head-Up Display
    Driver Seat Memory Function and 8-way Power Adjustable Passenger Seat
    Digital Rear View Mirror
    14 Speaker JBL Premium Audio System
    Leather Seats
    Exclusive Interior Accents
    Retro-style Round LED Headlamps, Rigid Fog Lamps
    Back Door Opening Guard, LED Back Door Lamps
    Front & Transfer Skid plate, Rock Rails, Roof Rack
    18” Alloy Wheels with exclusive finish and First Edition Mud Flaps
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    Vehicle pricing is absolutely ridiculous today. These prices have been the best thing to ever happen to me as for the first time in my adult life I'm totally fine sitting out and holding off on new car purchases. I'm simply not comfortable paying today's pricing for non-special vehicles.
    I too, am rich enough to be poor with white people.

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    Says the guy with multiple vehicles
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    Based on the last few pages I expect OT+ GX will be the goto for most (so long as they don’t need third row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finboy View Post
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    Based on the last few pages I expect OT+ GX will be the goto for most (so long as they don’t need third row.

    I actually think the OverTrail models will be the least sold... the amount of people not actually looking at what in included in each package vs just blanket price shopping. Who knows with the Overland thing being so popular though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Audi View Post
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    I actually think the OverTrail models will be the least sold... the amount of people not actually looking at what in included in each package vs just blanket price shopping. Who knows with the Overland thing being so popular though..
    Do you think someone would actually spend ~100k on a vehicle and not compare packages/options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjstare View Post
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    Do you think someone would actually spend ~100k on a vehicle and not compare packages/options?

    The comment was more geared towards comparing $XZ priced GX to $XY priced LC. Even though prices are within 3-5k, the actual options are vastly different. LandCruiser Premium comes with all Offroad tech/mechanicals, leather, safety tech, upgraded stereo etc, while the base GX doesnt have any of it.
    But because the prices are similar, the vehicles are compared.
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    I feel the opposite. Lots of overtrails to be sold.

    I feel like the kind of people not interested in the overtrail aspects of the vehicle, are the kind of people who will gravitate to the highlander or TX.
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    so we doing a group buy and cruise to red deer to visit our fave dandurand
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    I feel the opposite. Lots of overtrails to be sold.

    I feel like the kind of people not interested in the overtrail aspects of the vehicle, are the kind of people who will gravitate to the highlander or TX.
    This is where I’m at, most of the LR defenders I see have ladders, external storage, etc. to look the part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    I feel like the kind of people not interested in the overtrail aspects of the vehicle, are the kind of people who will gravitate to the highlander or TX.
    I believe one of the reviewer said if people expect the calmer drive like GLE/X5 or really need 7 seats to stay away from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finboy View Post
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    This is where I’m at, most of the LR defenders I see have ladders, external storage, etc. to look the part.
    And here I am taking the roof rack off the bronco to reduce wind noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Audi View Post
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    Full list of packages and trims for LC in Canada was posted already..(Got the breakdown from the dealer in December) and now on the Toyota Canada website. Its basically 1958, regular, premium or first edition. Worth noting, the next model up keeps the same items as the one before plus adds on the new list. First Edition has some premium options removed though. No other substantial options. I added the prices that were leaked below:
    https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/regi...es#/al/line-up

    Land Cruiser 1958 $69,290

    8” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    6 Speaker Audio System
    Wireless Apple CarPlay® & Android AutoTM Compatibility
    6-way Manually Adjustable Driver & Passenger Seats
    Heated Front Seats & Heated Leather Steering Wheel
    18” Alloy Wheels
    Retro-style Round LED Headlamps
    Full-time 4WD
    Locking Rear Differential
    Downhill Assist & Crawl Control
    Drive Mode Select (3 modes)
    Blind Spot Monitor with Rear Cross Traffic Alert
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    Land Cruiser $77,290

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    10 Speaker Audio System
    12.3” Full Digital Gauges
    Wireless Charging
    Power Back Door
    3-Zone Auto Air Conditioning
    8-way Power Adjustable Driver Seat
    SofTex® Seats and Ventilated Front Seats
    Moonroof
    Heated Side Mirrors
    Rectangle LED Headlamps
    Wireless Charger
    Multi-Terrain Monitor & Multi-Terrain Select
    Front Stabilizer Disconnect Mechanism (SDM)
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    Land Cruiser Premium Package $83,290

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect (3-yr trial)1
    Front Cross Traffic Alert and Lane Change Assist
    Driver Monitor and Traffic Jam Assist Capable
    Digital Key
    Head-Up Display
    Center Console Cooler Box
    Driver Seat Memory Function and 8-way Power Adjustable Passenger Seat
    Digital Rear View Mirror
    14 Speaker JBL Premium Audio System
    Leather Seats
    20” Alloy Wheels
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0


    First Edition $89,980

    12.3” Toyota Multimedia with Service Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Safety Connect (up to 10-yr trial)1, Remote Connect (3-yr trial)1, and Drive Connect capable (paid subscription required)1
    Head-Up Display
    Driver Seat Memory Function and 8-way Power Adjustable Passenger Seat
    Digital Rear View Mirror
    14 Speaker JBL Premium Audio System
    Leather Seats
    Exclusive Interior Accents
    Retro-style Round LED Headlamps, Rigid Fog Lamps
    Back Door Opening Guard, LED Back Door Lamps
    Front & Transfer Skid plate, Rock Rails, Roof Rack
    18” Alloy Wheels with exclusive finish and First Edition Mud Flaps
    Toyota Safety SenseTM 3.0
    Would you happen to know what 'Multi-Terrain Select' accomplishes? Other than speakers and a bigger screen, MTS is makes the 'Land Cruiser' trim worthwhile.

    The 1958 trim seems to be well packaged as an entry-level version. Fuck moonroof

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    1958 is $130 too cheap
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    Depends how valuable you think having a knob to tell the car what kind of terrain you are driving on is.
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    https://support.toyota.com/s/article...language=en_US

    Toyota Multi-Terrain Select is a feature found on select Toyota trucks and SUVs that regulates wheelspin by automatically adjusting the engine throttle and traction control. Combined with other off-road features like Crawl Control (CRAWL), it helps drivers tackle challenging road conditions with confidence.

    This innovative feature can help you conquer five of the most common off-road surfaces:

    Rock
    Rock & Dirt
    Mogul
    Loose Rock
    Mud & Sand

    The mts monitor is the surround cameras that are used for offroading, Front/side/rear views.

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