2024 Toyota Land Cruiser

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Well even with an order on my books and literally standing there with my salesman I couldn’t get inside the GX. Lame.

Looked great in person, great size and presence.
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Apparently Lexus Calgary have 7 allocations arriving over the next 6 weeks, my name wasn’t in terribly early so none of them are mine. Expecting 45 cars by year end.

Went and looked at the LC, maybe it’s just confirmation bias but I wasn’t feeling it nearly as much.

Well owl be, thought you'd be taller.

[R-Audi]

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Call me crazy, but if an additional $500/yr for fuel (premium vs. regular) is going to break the bank, maybe a new $75k SUV is not the play. I can't fathom why people care about this so much.

A big part of it is that it just doesnt make sense! The Tacoma TRD Pro and TrailHunter have the exact same engine with the same performace specs and it uses regular. The Grand Highlander Hybrid Max (which has the same engine but different electric setup) also uses regular. So far nothing has come out or been released which can explain why these differences exist. People only found out about it as they went through the owners manual online. Even the Toyota reps had no idea at the Autoshow until they pulled it up on their info tablet.

I am attracted to the hybrid for better mileage/efficiency and so far the mileage is worse than originally estimated and some of those savings are also eaten up with premium fuel. Currently driving a 4Runner which is crappy on gas and was looking forward to something better. My lease is up in November, so I am in a bit of a time crunch to find something I like by then... My kids told me they liked the Bronco more, but not sure I could go that route. The only other vehicle at the show that I found even remotely appealing in my price range was the Volvo V60 Recharge.. but I think Im over worrying about curbs, bumps etc and still too many years ahead of carting around kids and throwing hockey bags in the back.


Neither a 'tarted up' 4 cyl turbo hybrid nor a juiced up v6 turbo make sense for offroading/overlanding, yet here we are. Most compaines have thrown out the simple engines for better performing and more efficient motors in this category...

[msommers]

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Call me crazy, but if an additional $500/yr for fuel (premium vs. regular) is going to break the bank, maybe a new $75k SUV is not the play. I can't fathom why people care about this so much.

It's not a break the bank situation regardless of the price of vehicle. If you drive 5,000 km/yr, using today's pricing of regular vs. premium using the 4Runners average L/km of 13.9, it's only a $223 difference.

https://www.calculconversion.com/fue...alculator.html

It's just an annoying requirement that was never needed for 100% of Toyota SUV owners.

[killramos]

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A big part of it is that it just doesnt make sense! The Tacoma TRD Pro and TrailHunter have the exact same engine with the same performace specs and it uses regular. The Grand Highlander Hybrid Max (which has the same engine but different electric setup) also uses regular. So far nothing has come out or been released which can explain why these differences exist. People only found out about it as they went through the owners manual online. Even the Toyota reps had no idea at the Autoshow until they pulled it up on their info tablet.

I am attracted to the hybrid for better mileage/efficiency and so far the mileage is worse than originally estimated and some of those savings are also eaten up with premium fuel. Currently driving a 4Runner which is crappy on gas and was looking forward to something better. My lease is up in November, so I am in a bit of a time crunch to find something I like by then... My kids told me they liked the Bronco more, but not sure I could go that route. The only other vehicle at the show that I found even remotely appealing in my price range was the Volvo V60 Recharge.. but I think Im over worrying about curbs, bumps etc and still too many years ahead of carting around kids and throwing hockey bags in the back.


Neither a 'tarted up' 4 cyl turbo hybrid nor a juiced up v6 turbo make sense for offroading/overlanding, yet here we are. Most compaines have thrown out the simple engines for better performing and more efficient motors in this category...

Buyout the 4R lease and kick the can down the road until you can get what you want?

[flipstah]

The GX is definitely well packaged as a 7 seater compare to a Sequoia that just got fucked interior design-wise due to the hybrid battery pack in the back.

[R-Audi]

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Buyout the 4R lease and kick the can down the road until you can get what you want?

Its an option... but also sitting on ~25-30k if I buyout and sell. That will only go down the longer I hold on to it.

[killramos]

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The GX is definitely well packaged as a 7 seater compare to a Sequoia that just got fucked interior design-wise due to the hybrid battery pack in the back.

Lol wait until you see the hump that has been showing up in the pre prod GX550h’s

[JRSC00LUDE]

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It's not a break the bank situation regardless of the price of vehicle. If you drive 5,000 km/yr, using today's pricing of regular vs. premium using the 4Runners average L/km of 13.9, it's only a $223 difference.

https://www.calculconversion.com/fue...alculator.html

It's just an annoying requirement that was never needed for 100% of Toyota SUV owners.

Does anyone only drive 5,000km a year? Why even have a car? Uber be cheaper lol

[killramos]

I definitely drive some of my cars less than that.

Overall, really depends how much I am at the lake in the summer.

Heck checking the data even my “mile muncher” is barely above that

[bjstare]

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Does anyone only drive 5,000km a year? Why even have a car? Uber be cheaper lol

My car gets <5000km/yr.

[ercchry]

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It's not a break the bank situation regardless of the price of vehicle. If you drive 5,000 km/yr, using today's pricing of regular vs. premium using the 4Runners average L/km of 13.9, it's only a $223 difference.

https://www.calculconversion.com/fue...alculator.html

It's just an annoying requirement that was never needed for 100% of Toyota SUV owners.

It’s still not “required” …the timing will retard itself for whatever fuel is used… but what you might find is better mpg from the premium, as the timing will advance for it, more power, less load to achieve same acceleration, better mpg. At least I’ve noticed this on the last few modern turbos I’ve had.

[ExtraSlow]

Yes, nothing "requires" premium.

[R-Audi]

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Lol wait until you see the hump that has been showing up in the pre prod GX550h’s

Should be the same as the LC rear.. from what I understand it will be the same engine. (Turbo 4cy hybrid, not the Tundra turb 6 cy hybrid) You can pull up specs from China already

[killramos]

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Should be the same as the LC rear.. from what I understand it will be the same engine. (Turbo 4cy hybrid, not the Tundra turb 6 cy hybrid) You can pull up specs from China already

The photos swirling the interwebs are not promising

[shakalaka]

I am thinking of taking my name off the list and getting my money back. Pretty sure it's what I am going to do cause the guy is telling me it will be a minimum 1.5 yr if he submitted an order today. Fuck that. It's not a limited edition Porsche or Lambo, I am trying to get.

[killramos]

I don’t get it. You are taking your name off the list because if you put your name on the list today it would take 2 years to get one?

If you don’t want one by all means take it off but your logic doesn’t compute for me

[ExtraSlow]

What about his feelings?

[killramos]

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What about his feelings?

Maybe if I put a Lambo badge on it!

[shakalaka]

Haha Lambo badge would fix everything.

But I actually misunderstood my sales guy. He was saying if I stick to the executive package that I had initially ordered then that is expected in 6-8 months. But if I want to change the trim now (which is what I was thinking) to the off-road one, then that would be 1.5 years. I was contemplating not keeping the executive package as I don't get the impression my wife cares for it/wants it. So I was thinking to maybe just do the off-road one for myself. But if that's going to double the time line, I am just going to stick to the executive one for now and once it lands then decide if I am moving forward with it or not.

I initially thought he was saying that I would be waiting 1.5 yrs + regardless right now, which is when I was ready to take the name off the list. lol.

But I would think if these fuckers are indeed as rare as they are making them sound like, I should be able to take it, use it and flip it a year or whatever later and still not lose $.

[killramos]

That makes more sense