Another Vehicle Dilemma Thread - Family Hauler Edition

[pheoxs]

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You're probably right... It was 10+ years ago when we last rented a Flex and mostly chose it because a) we only needed the second row; b) needed to haul a bunch of baby gear and food, and; c) was cheaper than renting an SUV and it wasn't a minivan

That said, I would run into the same issue with the Flex as I would with a minivan... Great if you need to haul a bunch of stuff OR 6 people, but not if you need to haul 6 people AND their stuff.

Just put the kids on the roof rack

[brucebanner]

Pacifica TRX sign me up

Hearing some positive feedback on the Dodge Chrysler is good! As I mentioned the the rental we had was decent but there is a less than seller rep for a reason.

Definitely looking at a van, this thread is just helping the do we get a Dodge product or wait a year+ for the Toyota.

I get a break on Chrysler pricing through work, it's EP + 1% or something like that.

Yes we'll be selling the Edge once we make a decision and get a van home.

[jwslam]

Why is only the Pacific a contender?
Odyssey and Carnival are not bad for stock if you're open to not-AWD and quick availability.

[Cagare]

Carnival is pretty well reviewed, it's true.

I would do some cross shopping in any case. Just don't stress on reliability is all I would say, I think most are good.

[rage2]

Rented an Odyssey with winter tires, and it was one of the more sketchier drives with a lot of oversteer moments. Did not like how it winter handled. Only thing it had going for it was the vacuum. It was also really expensive.

[SKR]

AWD van right here:

https://www.kijijiautos.ca/cars/gmc/.../#vip=30525492

[brucebanner]

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Why is only the Pacific a contender?
Odyssey and Carnival are not bad for stock if you're open to not-AWD and quick availability.

Earlier I mentioned my wife wants awd, I'm not against having it either. So, were only looking at awd options, hence Sienna / Pacifica.

[jwslam]

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Rented an Odyssey with winter tires, and it was one of the more sketchier drives with a lot of oversteer moments. Did not like how it winter handled. Only thing it had going for it was the vacuum. It was also really expensive.

Vacuum was covid-removed for supply chain something-something

[Cagare]

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Earlier I mentioned my wife wants awd, I'm not against having it either. So, were only looking at awd options, hence Sienna / Pacifica.

Not saying don't go awd if you want, but I have found even the fwd dodge van has gotten through just about anything with good winters on it.

If I were buying another van today I would be going after a Pacifica plug in Hybrid. Can commute all electric and gets really nice gas mileage otherwise. You just give up the second row stow and go, which is annoying and the awd.

[Gman.45]

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Carnival is pretty well reviewed, it's true.

I would do some cross shopping in any case. Just don't stress on reliability is all I would say, I think most are good.

If Kia made the Carnival in AWD, it'd be a great option IMO, especially the top model with the Bose system in it. Very nice ride in it too.

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Rented an Odyssey with winter tires, and it was one of the more sketchier drives with a lot of oversteer moments. Did not like how it winter handled. Only thing it had going for it was the vacuum. It was also really expensive.

I friend of mine in the lower mainland's wife has the Odyssey with the top trim level, I drove in it a few times, no snow, and it was a really nice van, but ya, being stuck in Calgary with snow or ice for up to 1/2 the year, sketch winter traction is a no go IMO.

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AWD van right here:

https://www.kijijiautos.ca/cars/gmc/.../#vip=30525492

That's in pretty nice shape for being almost 25 years old. If it lived a couple/few years it'd be a decent winter beater for the cost.

[brucebanner]

Pulled the trigger on a Pacifica today and even dropped it off at shaks go to guy for ppf. Family hauler will be on full time duty by the weekend.

[ExtraSlow]

Nice.

[Rocket1k78]

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Pulled the trigger on a Pacifica today and even dropped it off at shaks go to guy for ppf. Family hauler will be on full time duty by the weekend.

Congrats! The Pacificas are really nice. Were finally out of the minivan phase and have a deposit on the Lexus TX(glorified grand highlander lol) with our fellow beyond Lexus rep. Hopefully we can capitalize on the Sienna madness

[brucebanner]

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Congrats! The Pacificas are really nice. Were finally out of the minivan phase and have a deposit on the Lexus TX(glorified grand highlander lol) with our fellow beyond Lexus rep. Hopefully we can capitalize on the Sienna madness

Yeah, it should serve our purposes for the next decade or so I hope.

Market it starting to change, so I hope you can cash in. Others here know better than me (twin cam?) but my truck value changed like $5k in 2 ish weeks. (I've been monitoring trade value while looking at the van - various dealers and 2 private export guys). They were all pretty close with one another.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

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Yeah, it should serve our purposes for the next decade or so I hope.

Market it starting to change, so I hope you can cash in. Others here know better than me (twin cam?) but my truck value changed like $5k in 2 ish weeks. (I've been monitoring trade value while looking at the van - various dealers and 2 private export guys). They were all pretty close with one another.

US wholesale market is mostly dropping fast, Canada usually follows US trends for normal vehicles.

[ExtraSlow]

car market crash mega-thread!

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

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car market crash mega-thread!

Hopefully if this shit keeps going for another 6+ months. I am ready to buy when the deals arrive.

[ExtraSlow]

I would take a real used vehicle market crash. Suspect it ends up being more of a flattening overall.

[you&me]

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I would take a real used vehicle market crash. Suspect it ends up being more of a flattening overall.

Agree completely.

The manufacturers have various levers they can pull to control new car supply / pricing and prop up the used market... A strong used market makes for a strong new market and they know how tough the new market can be if the used market is crashing.

[Eride]

Whats the current situation with the new AWD Sienna? Impossible to find right now?