New Natural Gas Fired Power Plants coming online in 2024 - Guess the Electricity Pric

[killramos]

I mean an SMR is only half the nominal core size of a CANDU6, most of the literature calling them dramatically smaller is comparing to 1+GW reactors.

More reactors spread around the province means diluting expertise ( let’s be real there are only so many people qualified to run these things, and frankly I want our best minds keeping an eye on things not the b team because we wanted 6 teams ), miltiplying dilutive costs ( security ).

SMR’s and Gen3/3+ Reactors share very similar safety concepts ( the big one is ability for passive cooling ), and considering an accident is an unacceptable event having a bunch of statistically improbably events that need to be managed seems like a terrible idea compared to focusing our efforts on one or 2 plants.

I’d personally rather we just didn’t things right and take ourselves seriously as a country rather than this pussyfoot approach.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Nuclear is great in theory, but on a project level, not a slam dunk.

I guess not building them for decades means we sorta forgot how to

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-n...51be9115e88a64

TLDR - New Georgia nuke cost ~ double its original TIC and 7 years late, and bankrupted a company who you may have heard of - Westinghouse electric

They probably just didn't file enough progress reports and use enough Earned Value project mgmt or use a Level-9 P6 schedule with Sigma Six Black Belts.

All these useless mgmt tools in use and there's never been a time in history with more projects doubling and tripling their budgets.
We must need more tools.

[suntan]

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I mean an SMR is only half the nominal core size of a CANDU6, most of the literature calling them dramatically smaller is comparing to 1+GW reactors.

More reactors spread around the province means diluting expertise ( let’s be real there are only so many people qualified to run these things, and frankly I want our best minds keeping an eye on things not the b team because we wanted 6 teams ), miltiplying dilutive costs ( security ).

SMR’s and Gen3/3+ Reactors share very similar safety concepts ( the big one is ability for passive cooling ), and considering an accident is an unacceptable event having a bunch of statistically improbably events that need to be managed seems like a terrible idea compared to focusing our efforts on one or 2 plants.

I’d personally rather we just didn’t things right and take ourselves seriously as a country rather than this pussyfoot approach.

As long as the reactors are less than 150 kms apart the geers can drive to each reactor using their EVs in the cold.

[bjstare]

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They probably just didn't file enough progress reports and use enough Earned Value project mgmt or use a Level-9 P6 schedule with Sigma Six Black Belts.

All these useless mgmt tools in use and there's never been a time in history with more projects doubling and tripling their budgets.
We must need more tools.

We must expand the bureaucracy to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.

[SKR]

I don't care how they make the electrons, just give me the fuckin things.

[pheoxs]

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We must expand the bureaucracy to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.

You clearly don't government because how can you expand the bureaucracy without expanding the consultants as well.

[killramos]

Well yea, you can’t expect government employees to actually do anything…

[Nufy]

The new SMR...

Built by Bombardier, designed by SNC Lavalin...

Fully supported by Canadian Taxpayers...

[ExtraSlow]

The dream of SMR was that it was a "design one, build many" kind of approach. Like a modular home. If that was the real approach, it should drove costs down.

However, seems we aren't (yet?) doing that. Bespoke c8structi9n in the field is a terrible idea, and Canada is awful at it. I expect project using that approach to be 5x budget.

If Ontario Crown corp is taking risk of budget overruns, I am strongly in favour of them bring involved.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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We must expand the bureaucracy to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.

It's complete madness. Trying to replace competency with checklists and reports has worked as well as the second referee in the NHL.

[ExtraSlow]

Bump for anyone who wants to document their brilliance with a guess on the summer electricity price. Today's RRO is 12.814c

[CompletelyNumb]

15c

[pheoxs]

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Bump for anyone who wants to document their brilliance with a guess on the summer electricity price. Today's RRO is 12.814c

/Tinfoil hat: Every time the price starts to fall a gas plant magically goes offline during peak hours and drives up the pool price quite quickly. $70 per MWh or near that is here to stay.

[bjstare]

My .059 fixed is expiring in July. I'll probably renew at ~.11 sometime soon, doubt it will get much better than that in the near future.