New Natural Gas Fired Power Plants coming online in 2024 - Guess the Electricity Pric

[ExtraSlow]

There wasn't an emergency alert, was there? Grid alert is a step before that, I thought.

[pheoxs]

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There wasn't an emergency alert, was there? Grid alert is a step before that, I thought.

Yup, same thing as Friday. We hit a Grid alert but no phone alert sent out.

[ExtraSlow]

I don't have any stats, but feels like grid alerts are moderately common. Like a dozen a year or more.

[suntan]

Well I have to do the laundry so too fucking bad.

[killramos]

Clean underwear? At a time like this?

[pheoxs]

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I don't have any stats, but feels like grid alerts are moderately common. Like a dozen a year or more.

They sorta are. We had a few over Christmas in the opposite direction. Alerts of excess supply and pool prices went
to $0 for hours because of excess production and low demand.

[suntan]

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They sorta are. We had a few over Christmas in the opposite direction. Alerts of excess supply and pool prices went
to $0 for hours because of excess production and low demand.

Oooo that's like a boxing day sale!

[ExtraSlow]

They should send an emergency alert to plug in your toasters and EV's when that happens.

[vengie]

Is that a Tesla battery joke?

[ZenOps]

Well, technically if there is an excess - EV charging stations that aren't free could have a half price sale.

[pheoxs]

Alberta’s Capital Power partners with Ontario Power Generation to build province’s first nuclear power reactor (printfriendly.com)

Alberta’s Capital Power partners with Ontario Power Generation to build province’s first nuclear power reactor

2035 supposedly.

[suntan]

This is very good.

[msommers]

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Energy is cheap, transmission is not.
Especially in a province the size of Alberta.

QC, ON, and BC are all bigger land masses by a large margin. Conversely, SK and MB aren't really that much smaller than AB. Solution is nuclear.

[killramos]

Question. Why are we so horny about this “SMR” concept.

To the best I understand economics scale very well with size, why aren’t we putting in CANDU 6 or CANDU 9’s?

Is the idea small reactor small accident or some nonsense?

[spike98]

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This is very good.

Is it? Going into co-ownership for power production with a company entirely owned by the Ontario provincial government? I get they have experience operating full plants but SMR's are new territory for all of canada, ontario included.

[spike98]

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Question. Why are we so horny about this “SMR” concept.

To the best I understand economics scale very well with size, why aren’t we putting in CANDU 6 or CANDU 9’s?

Is the idea small reactor small accident or some nonsense?

As i understand it, SMR's have a few advantages vs a larger plant. One being the simplicity of installation vs a full facility. We have many remote locations that would benefit from a smaller source of electricity without the significant cost of upgrading the transmission capabilities of getting the power there. Another, is overall cost. A SMR is supposed to be cheaper to install and operate vs a full blown facility as well.

[suntan]

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Is it? Going into co-ownership for power production with a company entirely owned by the Ontario provincial government? I get they have experience operating full plants but SMR's are new territory for all of canada, ontario included.

It's about the only way new things can happen in Canada.

[pheoxs]

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As i understand it, SMR's have a few advantages vs a larger plant. One being the simplicity of installation vs a full facility. We have many remote locations that would benefit from a smaller source of electricity without the significant cost of upgrading the transmission capabilities of getting the power there. Another, is overall cost. A SMR is supposed to be cheaper to install and operate vs a full blown facility as well.

I believe the other half of it is safety. By using smaller reactors there's much less risk of a meltdown in the event of loss of cooling because the reaction chain won't spiral out of control.

Though looking online there was a CANDU SMR variant at 300MW but seems like that stalled out? Not sure why.

[suntan]

Accepting nuclear power is a relatively new thing. The hope was that solar and wind would make up the majority of power but that's obviously not feasible.

I don't think you guys realize just how much political sway Greenpeace has.

[riander5]

Nuclear is great in theory, but on a project level, not a slam dunk.

I guess not building them for decades means we sorta forgot how to

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-n...51be9115e88a64

TLDR - New Georgia nuke cost ~ double its original TIC and 7 years late, and bankrupted a company who you may have heard of - Westinghouse electric