Anyone see this "Recall Calgary's Mayor Petition"?

[04Terminator]

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If some simple minded bigots also dislike her based on the color of her skin or the fact that she's a woman, that's their prerogative, sad as it may be. I saw countless folks in downtown +15's lined up to sign this petition during the first few weeks. White collar folks of various genders and races. But I suppose all of them are secretly neonazi's too

Apparently not "countless" as they got something less than 78k in several weeks of free press and national attention.

But yes. Typically Bigots are only openly bigot in their "safe spaces."

You know it's true. You've seen it. And you admit you welcome the fascists to your cause. That says enough.

[schurchill39]

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Fairly sure having a white collar makes you racist.

No no, you're thinking of a white hood.

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What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You've given out too much rep in the last 24 hours....

[ExtraSlow]

The Tyee, thats basically rebel news right?

[killramos]

The Tyee certainly makes for great entertainment

[ThePenIsMightier]

Tyee is like LeftRebel, isn't it? Sort of like Narwal, maybe?

[killramos]

The Narwal are Tyee wannabes.

Full on nutbars

[ExtraSlow]

I like sea creatures. I grew up watching danger bay. Had a crush on Ocean Helman. True story.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I like sea creatures...

Allegedly, so does the Mayor. I got to meet her at the "Secrets of the Whales" Nat Geo thing on the weekend at Arts Commons.
Pretty neat thing if there's any tickets left for remaining shows.

[SKR]

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Allegedly, so does the Mayor. I got to meet her at the "Secrets of the Whales" Nat Geo thing on the weekend at Arts Commons.
Pretty neat thing if there's any tickets left for remaining shows.

You were there thinking it was for picking up fatties though.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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You were there thinking it was for picking up fatties though.

Oh, make no mistake about it - it was.
Arts chicks must incorporate a lot of butter into their #Vegan diets.

[Sentry]

They think dying their hair is a better move aesthetically than putting the fork down

[04Terminator]

So any results? How many legit petitions were there?

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The Tyee, thats basically rebel news right?

People are upset about increasing density and reducing sprawl? WTF?

[M.alex]

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People are upset about increasing density and reducing sprawl? WTF?

I found it amusing that all the green haired weirdos and immigrants were for it, meanwhile normal looking white people were against it.

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I look forward to ten years from now, when all these high density supporters suddenly realize the city never provided extra infrastructure for it.

Have they even talked about that shit? Kids are already getting bussed all over the city due to lack of classrooms, it'll be great when there's another 10 or 20% increase in students with nowhere to go because there's no land left in the higher density "inner" city to put new ones. Let alone road capacity, electrical grid, water/sewer, etc. etc. etc.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Have we torn up 14th for the water main yet this year? We're about due again, right?

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I look forward to ten years from now, when all these high density supporters suddenly realize the city never provided extra infrastructure for it.

Have they even talked about that shit? Kids are already getting bussed all over the city due to lack of classrooms, it'll be great when there's another 10 or 20% increase in students with nowhere to go because there's no land left in the higher density "inner" city to put new ones. Let alone road capacity, electrical grid, water/sewer, etc. etc. etc.

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH, BIGOT!!!
This CLIMATE EMERGENCY requires action, not thinking!!

[msommers]

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I look forward to ten years from now, when all these high density supporters suddenly realize the city never provided extra infrastructure for it.

Have they even talked about that shit? Kids are already getting bussed all over the city due to lack of classrooms, it'll be great when there's another 10 or 20% increase in students with nowhere to go because there's no land left in the higher density "inner" city to put new ones. Let alone road capacity, electrical grid, water/sewer, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah I have brought up this point to Reddit and falls on deaf ears. Just downvotes because 'fuck you I'm renting and 25, and want a detached house down the street from Analog for 400K, and I'll never get it unless we densify!'

[mr2mike]

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I look forward to ten years from now, when all these high density supporters suddenly realize the city never provided extra infrastructure for it.

Have they even talked about that shit? Kids are already getting bussed all over the city due to lack of classrooms, it'll be great when there's another 10 or 20% increase in students with nowhere to go because there's no land left in the higher density "inner" city to put new ones. Let alone road capacity, electrical grid, water/sewer, etc. etc. etc.

The only answer is a housing crash. Hopefully before all these projects have started. My area I walk past 6+ empty lots in a few blocks. Ones been vacant for a few years. Probably the best Chinese investment yet. No chance of damage from squatters.

[kertejud2]

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I look forward to ten years from now, when all these high density supporters suddenly realize the city never provided extra infrastructure for it.

Have they even talked about that shit? Kids are already getting bussed all over the city due to lack of classrooms, it'll be great when there's another 10 or 20% increase in students with nowhere to go because there's no land left in the higher density "inner" city to put new ones. Let alone road capacity, electrical grid, water/sewer, etc. etc. etc.

The infrastructure is very interconnected, it will need to be upgraded anyway. Have they ever talked about that shit? It's all they ever talk about. Upgrading and building infrastructure for higher density is more cost effective than sprawl. We've known this for decades.

To take the schools as an example, there are inner city school zones that's Junior High and Elementary schools are below 75% capacity, but the high schools are at full, or even excess capacity. That's because they're taking on the excess capacity from the outer neighborhoods (who's zones are at 95%+ capacity across all levels, with high schools over 100% capacity). If there's 10-20% increase in students, them moving into the inner city wouldn't cause a problem for those schools. The issue facing school capacity isn't that the inner city can't handle extra density, it's that the perimeter doesn't have the infrastructure to handle the number of students that live there. Keep expanding out, new schools from K-12 need to be built, while inner city schools continue to go underutilized, and travel distances to the inner city high schools increase and costs to transport students increase. If the student capacity in the inner city neighborhoods sees better utilization of the already built K-9 schools, then the perimeter only needs to see expansion of high school capacity, and the associated cost of busing students all over the city is less.

So the infrastructure needs to be built regardless, but taking advantage of density where possible will make things cheaper. I get the density opponents don't mind the incremental tax increases needed to fund sprawl, but it's not a smart way to build a city. Less bureaucracy and more property rights are better, no?

[ExtraSlow]

Which one of these is "government intervention"?
A) highly restrictive zoning
B) less restrictive zoning