Was wondering about the last gen of 240sx in North America, from 95 to 98, S14 platform. Did we actually get the later version in Canada? I've seen a few in town, are they conversions or the real??
Early version:
Later version:
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Was wondering about the last gen of 240sx in North America, from 95 to 98, S14 platform. Did we actually get the later version in Canada? I've seen a few in town, are they conversions or the real??
Early version:
Later version:
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We got the S13 and S14, but not the S15.
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we got both the models. the one with the roundish square lights and the meaner looking square lights
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Thank you.Originally posted by Hipermax_d
we got both the models. the one with the roundish square lights and the meaner looking square lights
Damn +44411's
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too bad we didnt get the meaner engine...
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If you want to drop an SR20DET engine in it should only cost you about 4 -5 G's for the engine and tranny. Not overly bad for a 250 bhp unit...Originally posted by three.eighteen.
too bad we didnt get the meaner engine...
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Yeah i've seen a couple with the mean looking headlights..those are still s14s and still look tight as hell.
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240 from 95-96 S14
240 from 97-98 S14A
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If you wanna turbo them do you have to drop a silvia engine in it or is there turbo kits available for them? I think it would make a sweet project for the older 240's (?89-91?)
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95-96 s14Originally posted by Madmax
240 from 95-96 S14
240 from 97-98 S14A
97-98 s14mc (minor change)
99-02 s15 (Across the ocean only, parts of europe, Austrailia, Asia Etc..Same with the skyline, so next time you go to england ask your buddy for a ride in his GTR!)
Lot's of turbo kits but they all cost the same as the SR engine for the most part. And your KA24DE needs to be in good shape for a turbo kit. With a KA you can put down some serious numbers. Lot's of torque.Originally posted by SpeedStar
If you wanna turbo them do you have to drop a silvia engine in it or is there turbo kits available for them? I think it would make a sweet project for the older 240's (?89-91?)
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Yeah the 24de can produce some good numbers with low psi... turbo magazines was pumpin out 300Whp on 7psi
Lot's of turbo kits but they all cost the same as the SR engine for the most part. And your KA24DE needs to be in good shape for a turbo kit. With a KA you can put down some serious numbers. Lot's of torque.
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Hmm... wouldn't it be more logical to go with the sr20det swap than to turbo the Ka? If the costs are approximately the same, wouldn't the sr be more reliable as it is a factory turboed engine?
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yeah the article about the guy t/c'ing his KA24 was half about how many times he failed blowing this and that...in the end it would have been cheaper for him to get an sr20
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No matter what the SR factory turbo engine, is better off than the KA for reliability, no one can tell me different. Nice thing about SR's too there are all ready proven power recipies available like this one for example.Originally posted by RiceCake
Hmm... wouldn't it be more logical to go with the sr20det swap than to turbo the Ka? If the costs are approximately the same, wouldn't the sr be more reliable as it is a factory turboed engine?
SR + t3/t4 + 550 injectors + 300zx MAF+ S-AFC/others = +350WHP/350WTQ, with spoolups in the 4000K range. Add your 17% drive train loss and get +409.5 crank HP.
FYI The 240/silvia in it's time had the most advanced real wheel drive setup in the JDM market place. This, and the weight diff, is how lower HP 240's beat higher HP supras. The SR is by far the most impressive engine I have seen yet in the 4 cyl range.
If I can rip ship up with a measly stock t25 and hit the 240-250RWHP, though a bigger turbo on and that's when shit starts getting crazy. Stock bottom end is solid till 400HP'ish
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I know this is off topic, but I heard you talk about the best 4 cyl engine and it made me think...
You ever heard of the Fe3 mazda motor...
Its top and bottom end can handle more then 550 crank hp, all you need to upgrade is the pistons, and fuel system!
IT has two intake plenums , which comes close to doubling your boost level once the engine hits 5000 rpm, and can rev to 8500rpm stock...
The turbo edition came with 250 hp at 12 psi, and 230 tq i think...
SO it doest put out as much torque i dont believe... but you can find this engine kicking around all over the place for a 1000 canadian and NO ONE knows its potential
A friend of mine is getting 450whp with 22psi , with half pumpgas/half 106 octane fuel... and his only upgrades are turbo/intercooler/fuel system/ECU/and pistons...
Its a 2.0 16 vavle FWD engine..
Im not arguing in case you might think I am.... I want to get specks on the sr20det because Im intrested in a RWD 4 cyl turboed application in the future....
But has any of you heard or done any research on the capabilities of the FE3 ?
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When you have to upgrade pistons, it is no longer STOCK bottom end.Originally posted by ConVict
I know this is off topic, but I heard you talk about the best 4 cyl engine and it made me think...
You ever heard of the Fe3 mazda motor...
Its top and bottom end can handle more then 550 crank hp, all you need to upgrade is the pistons, and fuel system!
IT has two intake plenums , which comes close to doubling your boost level once the engine hits 5000 rpm, and can rev to 8500rpm stock...
The turbo edition came with 250 hp at 12 psi, and 230 tq i think...
SO it doest put out as much torque i dont believe... but you can find this engine kicking around all over the place for a 1000 canadian and NO ONE knows its potential
A friend of mine is getting 450whp with 22psi , with half pumpgas/half 106 octane fuel... and his only upgrades are turbo/intercooler/fuel system/ECU/and pistons...
Its a 2.0 16 vavle FWD engine..
Im not arguing in case you might think I am.... I want to get specks on the sr20det because Im intrested in a RWD 4 cyl turboed application in the future....
But has any of you heard or done any research on the capabilities of the FE3 ?
I'm not starting a war of the 4 cyl engines. I'm just saying IMO from what turbo cars I have been in or driven this one is the most impressive. Have to remember 1 thing this is a JDM motor so the rules of engine building are different than here, kinda like why certian german cars are faster in say europe but get toned down here to North America.
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With 4 cylinder turbo motors, a couple of the strongest motors built are the SR20DET(240,180) from Nissan and the 3SGTE(MR2, AWD Celica) from Toyota. I think most motors have potential if you build it right but these 2 motors are strong from the get go so you don't need as many reinforcements until you go buck wild. The SR20DET does have a better platform to work from. The MR2 is the worst to work on mechanically becuase of the cramped mid engine space. The 240 you got lots of room to play around.
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Originally posted by Hollywood (2)
When you have to upgrade pistons, it is no longer STOCK bottom end.
I'm not starting a war of the 4 cyl engines. I'm just saying IMO from what turbo cars I have been in or driven this one is the most impressive. Have to remember 1 thing this is a JDM motor so the rules of engine building are different than here, kinda like why certian german cars are faster in say europe but get toned down here to North America.
Hehe I have a KA24DE. But I think the altima is the only one that actually won't accept the SR20DET engine. Do you think putting a turbo on the KA would be even worth it?
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what are you talking about? your car comes stock with a sr20det in japan...blue bird...Originally posted by altima
Hehe I have a KA24DE. But I think the altima is the only one that actually won't accept the SR20DET engine. Do you think putting a turbo on the KA would be even worth it?
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It sure does. But that's in Japan. Here it's the KA24DEand I haven't seen a single SR20DET swap. People say it's not possible due to the design of the engine bay or something like that.
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