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    Default VR6 vs V6?

    Which is better....you have a VR6 ohh say 180 HP engine compared to a v6 180 HP engine??

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    pretty sure VR6 is just a V6 engine.
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    Isn't it?
    I always thought it was a V6
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    VR6 is supposed to be an inline 6....SO Peter brags anyways. lol

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    VR6 aint an inline six...

    it's a V6 on some wierd angle if I recall correctly.

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    yea it is i think 15 degree offset of 90
    i dunno something like that
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    psff! ohh. Well which is better then?? Angled or not?


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    It is a v6 but by closing the angle of the V to 15 degrees the two rows of cylinders can share a single cylinder heard. which combines the advantages of inline designs with the pluses of a traditonal V design

    from the VW brochure
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    grrr i need to find this website again
    but it deals with questions like 'which is better' as far as fundamental design goes, opposing forces, balance, etc

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    Ahh ok. Thanks guys!


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    Originally posted by 2K255HP
    yea it is i think 15 degree offset of 90
    i dunno something like that

    Exactly, The VR6 is much like a combination of a V6 and an Inline to some respects. Takes up a bit less space, so you can fit them nicely into smaller spaces with the same ompfff. The VR6's up to the 2002.5s came with a 12 valve 174hp beast. Great motors, bomb proof. The Latest ones, 24V VR6 wasn't a major improvement really, but it gave them the 24V and that was that.

    VR6 motors are one of few motors on the market that share among the flatest of torque curves...from 1750-5500.

    In a couple years NA will see the 225HP VR6 4motion delight that will most cirtainly be something to see.
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    Originally posted by Benny



    Exactly, The VR6 is much like a combination of a V6 and an Inline to some respects. Takes up a bit less space, so you can fit them nicely into smaller spaces with the same ompfff. The VR6's up to the 2002.5s came with a 12 valve 174hp beast. Great motors, bomb proof. The Latest ones, 24V VR6 wasn't a major improvement really, but it gave them the 24V and that was that.

    VR6 motors are one of few motors on the market that share among the flatest of torque curves...from 1750-5500.

    In a couple years NA will see the 225HP VR6 4motion delight that will most cirtainly be something to see.
    hmm.. cule... hehe looks like there are gonna be some wikked cars for me when i graduate next year and begin saving hardcore for a new ride!

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    The VR6 is just a narrow angle V6. Like was said above, because of the narrow angle they can use one head instead of two. In terms of power and torque delivery is falls somewhere between a conventional 90 degree V6 and an Inline 6, coming in closer to the Inline 6 end. The biggest advantage of the narrow angle is because the motor is much more narrow than a conventional V6 they can place it longitudinally inside the chassis for use as a front wheel drive without adding a lot of complexity to the driveline and it allows for better weight distribution because you can get the engine closer to the center of the car.

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    Here is the most complete guide and answers to engine congfigurations that I have found to date. Although I don't think it covers the VR6 design, it does cover almost every other design that you can think of. Hope this helps.

    http://www.thrasher-ep.com/tech_htm/...ne_design.shtm

    Edit: I think you guys mean the 60 degree V6 because an offset of 15 degrees of a 90 degree would not give the VR6 any packaging advantages over a regular 60 degree V6. Also if you read the part on that site about 90 vs 60 degree V6 you will find that the 60 is better then the 90 for a certian reason, that reason means that to approach the design benifits of an inline 6 you would have to have either a 30, 15, 10, 5, or 2 degree V6. And guess what folks? Thats right it's a 15 degree V6, if you want to find out why that is such a good number read the part on the website that I recommended and all your questions shall be answered.
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