2005 Mini Cooper Cab !!

[method]

it sure does. so what?

shorter wheelbases, centered gravity, tight suspenion... all equal good handling cars.

no one is saying the mini is a bad handling car. they have balls to the walls grip and go-kart-ability, but I'm sick of people getting all panty-wrenched over a car, and then trying to compare it to the best of the best in an attempt to convince everyone how great it is.

durr... my miata outhandles some really expensive BMWs!

so fucking what.

[CLiVE]

Nice pics, too bad I missed the launch party, I was out of town.

My mini is worth every penny. Great handling car for a bargain price. I agree with everything C4S has said...

[max_boost]

Originally posted by method
it sure does. so what?

shorter wheelbases, centered gravity, tight suspenion... all equal good handling cars.

no one is saying the mini is a bad handling car. they have balls to the walls grip and go-kart-ability, but I'm sick of people getting all panty-wrenched over a car, and then trying to compare it to the best of the best in an attempt to convince everyone how great it is.

durr... my miata outhandles some really expensive BMWs!

so fucking what.

Your MIata probably does out handle my 330......

Anyway, why are you so pissed? Swearing and everything too? LOL You so sensitive man

[lint]

Originally posted by max_boost
...
Anyway, why are you so pissed? Swearing and everything too? LOL You so sensitive man

Got dissed by some chick in a Cooper, who then owned his Miata?

[method]

Originally posted by max_boost
Your MIata probably does out handle my 330......

Anyway, why are you so pissed? Swearing and everything too? LOL You so sensitive man

lmao thats just how I talk.

it's a bad habit

[SwitchBlade]

Originally posted by 962 kid



mag racing eh? yah, I'm sure that C4S has never ever driven a nice car in his life, perhaps one day he'll get the chance to drive a porsche and compare it to the mini

So your saying hes basing his argument on magazine racing as hasn't driven a porsche yet? Wow and i guess the sky is green too hey. Your assumptions are nimble at best. It would look like you are under the impression my friend Method hasnt driven an exotic car in his life. All you need is a credit card and a valid drivers licence. Based on your arguments i would say that you dont have either of them. Truthfully I wouldnt put it past me to think that you have an extra chromosome #21 either.

The fact is you are comparing apples to oranges. For simplicity's sake i would suggest that you stick to that. Hey if your feeling special they might let you eat one too.

Heres a stupid argument for you, "My Hummer H1 can offroad better than your TJ or how about?" "my Hayabusa can go 340km/h and can out drive a Viper at 329km/h" bet you didnt think of that one huh huh? Is it a fair comparision no, not really. For what you are getting and for the sheer size of the god damn thing i would have to agree that it it overpriced. While waiting for your penis to stop being numb from the nice ride in the mini you can read some stats.

911
Base price: $78,400; C4; $84,000
Vehicle type: rear-engine, rear- or 4-wheel-drive; 2-door 2+2-passenger convertible
Interior volume, F/R/cargo (cu ft) 47/16/5
Wheelbase 92.6 in
Length/width/height 174.5/69.5/51.4 in
Turning circle 34.8 ft
Curb weight 3100–3250 lb
EPA city/hwy mpg 18/26
Fuel-tank capacity/range 16.9 gal/304 mi
Passive restraints driver and passenger front and side airbags

POWERTRAIN
3.6-liter DOHC 24-valve flat-6, 315 hp; 6-sp man, 5-sp auto

SUSPENSION
F ind, struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar
R ind, multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Mini
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door convertible
Estimated base price: $22,000-$25,500
Engines: SOHC 16-valve 1.6-liter inline-4, 115 hp, 110 lb-ft; supercharged and intercooled SOHC 16-valve 1.6-liter inline-4, 168 hp, 162 lb-ft
Transmissions: 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual, continuously variable automatic
Wheelbase: 97.1 in
Length/width/height: 143.9/66.5/55.8 in
Curb weight: 2800-3000 lb

Manufacturer's performance ratings:
Zero to 62 mph: 7.2-9.8 sec
Top speed (drag limited): 120-138 mph

Projected fuel economy (C/D est):
EPA city driving: 26 mpg
EPA highway driving: 35 mpg

[962 kid]

Originally posted by SwitchBlade


So your saying hes basing his argument on magazine racing as hasn't driven a porsche yet? Wow and i guess the sky is green too hey. Your assumptions are nimble at best. It would look like you are under the impression my friend Method hasnt driven an exotic car in his life. All you need is a credit card and a valid drivers licence. Based on your arguments i would say that you dont have either of them. Truthfully I wouldnt put it past me to think that you have an extra chromosome #21 either.

The fact is you are comparing apples to oranges. For simplicity's sake i would suggest that you stick to that. Hey if your feeling special they might let you eat one too.

Heres a stupid argument for you, "My Hummer H1 can offroad better than your TJ or how about?" "my Hayabusa can go 340km/h and can out drive a Viper at 329km/h" bet you didnt think of that one huh huh? Is it a fair comparision no, not really. For what you are getting and for the sheer size of the god damn thing i would have to agree that it it overpriced. While waiting for your penis to stop being numb from the nice ride in the mini you can read some stats.

911
Base price: $78,400; C4; $84,000
Vehicle type: rear-engine, rear- or 4-wheel-drive; 2-door 2+2-passenger convertible
Interior volume, F/R/cargo (cu ft) 47/16/5
Wheelbase 92.6 in
Length/width/height 174.5/69.5/51.4 in
Turning circle 34.8 ft
Curb weight 3100–3250 lb
EPA city/hwy mpg 18/26
Fuel-tank capacity/range 16.9 gal/304 mi
Passive restraints driver and passenger front and side airbags

POWERTRAIN
3.6-liter DOHC 24-valve flat-6, 315 hp; 6-sp man, 5-sp auto

SUSPENSION
F ind, struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar
R ind, multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Mini
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door convertible
Estimated base price: $22,000-$25,500
Engines: SOHC 16-valve 1.6-liter inline-4, 115 hp, 110 lb-ft; supercharged and intercooled SOHC 16-valve 1.6-liter inline-4, 168 hp, 162 lb-ft
Transmissions: 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual, continuously variable automatic
Wheelbase: 97.1 in
Length/width/height: 143.9/66.5/55.8 in
Curb weight: 2800-3000 lb

Manufacturer's performance ratings:
Zero to 62 mph: 7.2-9.8 sec
Top speed (drag limited): 120-138 mph

Projected fuel economy (C/D est):
EPA city driving: 26 mpg
EPA highway driving: 35 mpg

[sarcasm] yah, C4S has never driven a high end car in his life. never ever. and I myself only wish that I could get a ride in a car as sweet as a mini. but a car like that is beyond my wildest dreams [/sarcasm]

All C4s said was that the mini can outhandle some porsches and ferraris, which is true. no need to resort to personal attacks because somone disagrees with your friend

[method]

he said that they can 'outhandle some porsches and ferraris' for the purpose of furthering his love of minis.

if he had said "I like minis. I think they're pretty badass. they're cool little cars that handle well" it wouldnt have been a problem.

the fact that he needed to make comparisons to exotic cars is what is ridiculous. I like driving my miata because it's a fun car to drive, not because 'it can outhandle some 55 thousand dollars cars!'

a magazine runs it through the pylons faster than a car that costs twice as much, and suddenly thats your reason to tell everyone how great it is? no.

pretty soon you'll have guys driving 4th gen civics with built b series engines, tube frame chassis, and all custom suspension running circles around minis and shouting "I only spent 40 grand on this car! its waaaaay better"

I spent 2 grand on a minibike. a god damn minibike. that's a lot of money for a tiny motorcycle, but I'm not gonna start telling people 'well.. it can um... go under trees better than the crf450f does! ehh... it um... has better fuel economy! it has a smaller turning circle! ehh...'

I like minis. I think they're pretty cool cars, and are a successful nod to the small, nimble cars that are meant for driving. cool cars. they're still overpriced, but people will shell out whatever they want to pay for them. my minibike is overpriced in the eyes of a lot of people, but I shelled out the dough. I'm not gonna compare it to clearly better bikes in the hopes of convincing people it's a great bike. it's just not going to work.

[turboMiata]

Originally posted by C4S
[BHowever if you look at the other side, $70k, and 2 yrs waiting time for a Toyota engine/tranny from a celica ? No kidding ! for some people they know nothing about cars, it is way over-priced, they will still perfer their corolla more !
[/B]

This 70K car has a bonded aluminum tub and composite body for starters. The uninformed only see a car with no roof and Jap engine for 70K. They can keep their Corolla.

[PGTze]

Meh, it's just not doin it for me

[Seanith]

Originally posted by PGTze
Meh, it's just not doin it for me

You probably don't do men either

BTW today I saw an original mini that had the licence plate "NOTABMW" lol..

[max_boost]

Originally posted by 962 kid
All C4s said was that the mini can outhandle some porsches and ferraris, which is true.

Perhaps C4S took the Mini for a drive and realized it was just as capable as his new Porsche 911 around the corners?

I think people are reading too much into his comments. I don't think he ever said the Mini is a better car than a Ferrari so why all the hate?

[Redlyne_mr2]

Had the chance to see a mini cab up close today. I dont know what mini was thinking A mini coupe might be a capable slalom car but a mini cab is heavy and probably flexs like a bastard when you corner hard in it. I have yet to drive one though so my opinion isnt valid