Redlyne gives the Mazda speed a thumbs down..for now

[2000impreza]

Originally posted by Joe Malms
I still dont understand why the mazdaspeed protege only runs 4psi out of the box. (im pretty sure i read that somewhere)
thats lame
turn it up to 7-8psi from the factory damnit. It'd be alot easier to sell at that price with some more competitive numbers
The wrx runs 14! as well as the upcoming turbo Neon.

all mazda speed did was put a turbo on the standard protege engine. 9.1:1 compression ratio with all stock internals. the engine probably can't handle much boost.

[P. Daddy Pedro]

I used to be a huge mazda fan and after me experiences with them i fuckin hate them, the only good mazda ever built was the third gen. RX-7 twin turbo, i have yet to drive a mazda that i am truly happy with.

[Loose]

Originally posted by P. Daddy Pedro
I used to be a huge mazda fan and after me experiences with them i fuckin hate them, the only good mazda ever built was the third gen. RX-7 twin turbo, i have yet to drive a mazda that i am truly happy with.

Ah yes, the FD: Factory Defect

Right Joe Malms?

I actually think Mazda may have been conservative with the boost of this car cause of the FD. They don't want massive warranty claims, like the FD had for blown stock motors.

[szw]

Originally posted by drox
Heh, I hate that. I went with my friend to test drive a s2000, we werent gonna buy it or anything, and the fucking sales guy kept trying to get him to look at a fucking civic (we pulled up in a fugly 91 probe)

stereotypical dealers

Maybe they are stereotypical because of people like you, who don't intend to buy the car, but want to test-drive one?

They were right! They saved themselves wear on the car that will eventually be someone elses car, less money on a car with higher km's, and the salesman would probably lose money wasting time on you.

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by Joe Malms
I still dont understand why the mazdaspeed protege only runs 4psi out of the box. (im pretty sure i read that somewhere)
thats lame

It's actually 5.5psi!

But since the compression is high, wouldn't 5.5psi be somewhat sufficient? Say if it did run 8psi, it would produce the same power as the WRX running 14psi right? I apologize if it sounds confusing.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by CRXguy


It's actually 5.5psi!

But since the compression is high, wouldn't 5.5psi be somewhat sufficient? Say if it did run 8psi, it would produce the same power as the WRX running 14psi right? I apologize if it sounds confusing.

170hp is deffinitely not sufficient and when people start to modify these cars i.e raise the boost they are going to encounter some serious problems because of the weak bottom end

[turboMiata]

I'd rather turbocharge the P5 than the buy the MP3.

Protege 5 brand new = 23K
FM Protege Turbo kit = 5K (3.5K US)

Total = 28+K

Check out the dyno numbers.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/protege/tech/dyno.asp

That leaves you about 4K to do whatever you want with suspension and wheels.

[spyguy]

Originally posted by szw
Not many options available anyways. Well, no real good ones anyways.

As I said, 35g is the MSRP...freight tax everything will be 39-40

just like the mazdaspeed climbs to 32 with freight tax everything.

actually I paid a tad under 38

[Joe Malms]

Originally posted by Loose


Ah yes, the FD: Factory Defect

my favorite saying..lol

as for the compression...you guys think 9.1:1 is really high?
8psi would be fine in my opinion, but then again the internals may be weak as shit.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Joe Malms


my favorite saying..lol

as for the compression...you guys think 9.1:1 is really high?
8psi would be fine in my opinion, but then again the internals may be weak as shit.

actually 9.1:1 is really not all that bad..my car is 8.5:1 and it loves the boost..im just not confident about the protege block

[CRXguy]

A couple guys having boosted the last MP3 up to 10psi I believe, stock internals.

[silenttype23]

just came back from the dealership and they said that it is priced at $28200 = taxes and $hit

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by silenttype23
just came back from the dealership and they said that it is priced at $28200 = taxes and $hit

including taxes and everything because I know of 2 people who are getting mazdaspeeds and it came to over 31

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by silenttype23
just came back from the dealership and they said that it is priced at $28200 = taxes and $hit

$28,200 base price? Talk about mark-up.

Official MSRP is $26,995 + GST + fees.

[drox]

I actually think Mazda may have been conservative with the boost of this car cause of the FD. They don't want massive warranty claims, like the FD had for blown stock motors.

Want to know why? Because with a full turbo back exhaust you'll see well over a 35% hp gain. Put that on, dont add any fuel and pop goes the motor. Its pretty much the same as any other turbo car.

Maybe they are stereotypical because of people like you, who don't intend to buy the car, but want to test-drive one?

They were right! They saved themselves wear on the car that will eventually be someone elses car, less money on a car with higher km's, and the salesman would probably lose money wasting time on you.

Thats great and all. But what *if* he actually wanted to buy it? I would never walk into a dealership with the intention to buy anything, usually results in buying something you shouldnt have (impulse buying).

As for the mazdaspeed, it comes with a garret turbo if Im not mistaken. Those should be good for ~25psi before it starts to lose efficiency, if I am wrong of course someone correct me

[drox]

Oh and I saw this on another forum. I personally dont care for the wing on it, I want to see one with it removed.

http://www.performance-shop.com/yabb...;threadid=5531