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    Default Calgary's Official 5th Gen Lude Thread

    INDEX:
    -Engine Codes: Page 1
    -Wheel and Tire Size Info: Page 11


    I'm feeling left out since everyone has one of these...

    Anyway, let's start with the CEL codes (borrowed from TPC):


    To find the CEL Code:
    In order to get the code you'll need to find the service connector. On the 5th Gens it's on the right hand side of the centre console underneath a carpeted panel that just pops right out. The connector looks like a telephone connector and is plugged into a blue plastic piece that just serves as a holder. Unplug it and you'll see that it has two sockets in it that lead to two wires.

    You'll need a small piece of wire for this. Make sure the car is off. Just connect the two ports in the service connector together with the wire. After you've shorted the service connector, turn the key in the ignition to the on position (you don't actually need to start the car) and the yellow engine light will flash at you. There will be a series of long flashes, short flashes, and then it will repeat itself. Count the number of long flashes and short flashes and this will give you the MIL code. 2 long flashes and 3 short flashes is code 23. Once you've found the code, turn the key back to off and remove the wire from the service connector. You can look up the code in the following list.


    MIL Codes:
    3 Manifold Absolute Pressure Signal

    10 Intake Air Temperature Cicuit

    86 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit

    6 Engine Coolant Temperature Circuit

    7 Throttle Position Circuit

    1 Primary Heated Oxygen Circuit

    61 Primary Heated Oxygen Circuit

    41 Primary Heated Oxygen Circuit

    63 Secondary Heated Oxygen Circuit

    65 Secondary Heated Oxygen Circuit

    45 System too Rich/Lean Fuel Supply System

    71 Misfire Detected - Cylinder 1
    72 Misfire Detected - Cylinder 2
    73 Misfire Detected - Cylinder 3
    74 Misfire Detected - Cylinder 4

    23 Knock Sensor Circuit Malfunction Open or short in Knock Sensor (KS) circuit

    4 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit

    80 Exhaust Gas Recirculation

    67 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold Three way

    92 Evaporative Emission Control System

    91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor High/Low Input Open or short in Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit

    17 Vehicle Speed Circuit Malfunction Vehicle Speed Sensor

    14 Idle Control System Malfunction IAC Valve

    70 Automatic Transaxle Automatic Transmission

    13 Barometric Pressure Circuit

    5 Manifold Absolute Pressure

    22 VTEC System Malfunction VTEC Solenoid Valve

    20 Electrical Load Detector Circuit

    8 Crankshaft Position / Top Dead Center Sensor

    9 Cylinder Position Sensor

    90 Evaporative Emission Control System

    92 Evaporative Emmision Purge Flow Switch

    12 EGR Valve Lift Sensor

    14 Idle Air Control Valve Circuit Failure IAC Valve

    30 SEAF/SEFA Signal Line Failure
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    My girlfriend bought one of these ('97) with a tiptronic......and the tranny is fucked. Won't even go in reverse or anything. Apparently it's a major problem with the honda tiptronics or something. Do any of you guys know the best way to fix the problem, or the best route to take? Replace tiptronic, 5spd swap, etc. Maybe someone else on this board has had the same problem.

    Thanks

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    My girlfriend bought one of these ('97) with a tiptronic......and the tranny is fucked. Won't even go in reverse or anything. Apparently it's a major problem with the honda tiptronics or something. Do any of you guys know the best way to fix the problem, or the best route to take? Replace tiptronic, 5spd swap, etc. Maybe someone else on this board has had the same problem.
    I heard that at one point Honda recalled almost all of the tiptronic ludes for new transmissions... maybe her car was affected but never made it to the dealership?

    Worth a try, check it out.

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    I think that was only for the 2000-01's....all previous model year owners were SOL. I'd like to swap a 5spd in there to avoid having to deal with this again, but the chance of finding a 5spd donor car is pretty slim.

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    Great idea Richard!!

    Originally posted by 86max
    I think that was only for the 2000-01's....all previous model year owners were SOL. I'd like to swap a 5spd in there to avoid having to deal with this again, but the chance of finding a 5spd donor car is pretty slim.
    You are correct, you are SOL if you have a 97-99 SS Lude. You can also try and find a 4th Gen wrecked prelude SRV for the donator of parts (ie. tranny) or anyother 4th Gen for pedals...etc for a 5 speed swap.

    But if your in need of a tiptronic tranny, I will have one soon (since I'm doing the 5 speed swap)
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    I need a stock tail light (drivers side) for a '01 Lude.
    If you got one for sale PM me please.

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    Originally posted by 1-Bar

    But if your in need of a tiptronic tranny, I will have one soon (since I'm doing the 5 speed swap)
    Yeah I think that would be easiest, straight swap. If your tranny has no problems whatsoever I'll definitely be interested. Thanks for the help

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    ^ on a related note, recommended clutch/flywheel for hard driving??
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    Originally posted by 1-Bar
    Great idea Richard!!



    You are correct, you are SOL if you have a 97-99 SS Lude. You can also try and find a 4th Gen wrecked prelude SRV for the donator of parts (ie. tranny) or anyother 4th Gen for pedals...etc for a 5 speed swap.

    But if your in need of a tiptronic tranny, I will have one soon (since I'm doing the 5 speed swap)
    how much would you part out the tiptronic gearbox with shifter??

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    for NA - fidenza/clutchmasters or Jun flywheel
    for turbo - oem flywheel

    for a clutch, Exedy organic is a good oem replacement. If your looking for something that'll hold a little better than a stock clutch, I'd go with the ACT HDSS for pretty much any app.

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    How about Spec clutches? I'm looking at the stage 3 Spec clutch right now... What are you using right now buh_buh?

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    I'm using the ACT 6 puck. You can try it out once winter's over Richard.
    I've heard good and bad things about Spec, nothing about them on Hondas though.
    If money is no object, I'd go with the ACT XTSS for drivability and its ability to hold power.

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    yeah, i'm going to get an Exedy clutch! Good OEM replacement as mentioned earlier.

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    Buh_buh
    what do you recommend for someone running alot more power then stock, like urself?? Something that will hold up to the abuse, and power you can throw at it Yet somewhat affordable
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    ACT 6 puck. I think its the HDR6. That's what I'm using, and its the cheapest clutch ACT makes for our car haha.

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    haha...there's gotta be more 5th Gen luders out there....I count all the regulars
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    Originally posted by 1-Bar
    haha...there's gotta be more 5th Gen luders out there....I count all the regulars
    Holla

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    Originally posted by rip


    Holla


    Alright, lets see some numbers from you luders and your setup (if you want to reveal your secrets)
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    Originally posted by 86max
    I think that was only for the 2000-01's....all previous model year owners were SOL. I'd like to swap a 5spd in there to avoid having to deal with this again, but the chance of finding a 5spd donor car is pretty slim.
    Check out a-1 honda they're cheap.
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    I'll go first:

    105 torque / 148 hp
    SS '00 lude (AEM CAI, 5zigen axel back, V-AFC)

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