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    Although if we are truly on an exponential growth rate we could be in trouble. I just did some calculations and by 2020 we should expect them to be producing 35, 806, 054 cars a quarter. And by 2025 it'll be 3.2e12 cars per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    “I would simply urge people to not get too caught up in what exactly falls within the exact calendar boundaries of a quarter, one quarter or the next, because when you have an exponentially growing production ramp, slight changes of a few weeks here or there can appear to have dramatic changes, but that is simply because of the arbitrary nature of when a quarter ends," Musk said.
    Is Musk going to the Trump University of Alternative Facts?

    Since when has the definition of a quarter changed? Since when does the "end of a quarter" been arbitrary? WTF. A quarter is 3 months. At the end of 90 days, that is the end of the quarter. Is he really trying to redefine what a quarter is? While I understand that Q1,Q2, etc could be different parts of the year based on year end, it isn't like Tesla is changing their year end every year. Q3 is Q3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benyl View Post
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    Is Musk going to the Trump University of Alternative Facts?
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    Your so ridgid lol. When ur as sucesful as Telsa someone might listen to your excuses.

    Meanwhile im sure Tesla had no impact on GMs decision to ditch internal combustion.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/aut...d-cars-n806806

    Sour grapes crew, you may continue your hatwrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    Meanwhile im sure Tesla had no impact on GMs decision to ditch internal combustion.
    GM was making EV's before Tesla was even a thought. The problem was that it just wasn't a profitable model. The reason why many manufacturers are shifting to EVs now is because energy storage costs (batterys and fuel cells) are starting to approach a point where profitability is only a couple years away without having to rely on government subsidies. Unlike Tesla, traditional manufacturers have to worry about the bottom line and not bleed cash.

    Hybrids are overly complex, but manufacturers have been churning them out for 2 decades. The only reason they exist today is to bridge the gap until the cost of electrical energy storage becomes favorable (OK, usability is another piece). If it was that easy to make pure EVs profitable, hybrids wouldn't even exist at all.
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    GM was making EV's before Tesla was even a thought. The problem was that it just wasn't a profitable model. The reason why many manufacturers are shifting to EVs now is because energy storage costs (batterys and fuel cells) are starting to approach a point where profitability is only a couple years away without having to rely on government subsidies. Unlike Tesla, traditional manufacturers have to worry about the bottom line and not bleed cash.

    Hybrids are overly complex, but manufacturers have been churning them out for 2 decades. The only reason they exist today is to bridge the gap until the cost of electrical energy storage becomes favorable (OK, usability is another piece). If it was that easy to make pure EVs profitable, hybrids wouldn't even exist at all.
    Tesla revolutionized the market proved what was possibleand changed the world.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/28/1...ence-elon-musk

    And bankruot gm, subsididies and bleeding. no one has ever ehard that before

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    When did they change the world? I must have missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealJimmyJames View Post
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    When did they change the world? I must have missed that.
    All the hater crew share in the missing.

    If Musk was not born, do you for a second believe we wouldnt be years behind where we are?

    Is it some kind of envy. You like gas so much? What is with the blinders and making of excuses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Although if we are truly on an exponential growth rate we could be in trouble. I just did some calculations and by 2020 we should expect them to be producing 35, 806, 054 cars a quarter. And by 2025 it'll be 3.2e12 cars per day.
    Man, you need to get a job.
    Will fuck off, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    If Musk was not born, do you for a second believe we wouldnt be years behind where we are?
    Years behind in what? What has Tesla Motors actually invented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Years behind in what? What has Tesla Motors actually invented?
    A novel type of stock market scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Years behind in what? What has Tesla Motors actually invented?
    http://stks.freshpatents.com/Tesla-Motors-Inc-nm1.php

    how many patent holders hateraders in this thread?

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    The new capital market has been rewarding idea that has potential disruption and taking of market share instead of tried and true profit.

    Tesla is just trying to repeat what Amazon did.

    As a car, I just spend 2 week and traveled 1800 miles in a Model S. Their product is buggy (dash crashed on me twice which requires reboots) and quality is lacking (the glass roof opening/closing sounds like machine guns going off). But the biggest problem is the car feel tethered as you don't want to stray too far from Superchargers when you leave home and drastically reduce choices of destinations (Hotels, restaurants etc). Charging time is a problem too with 150mi every 30 mins at Supercharger. I spent 10+hrs (some including waiting in queue for up to 30min) at Superchargers for those 1800 miles. A equivalent 21mpg gas car will take 6 fill up at gas stations (or ~1hr).

    But I will say that it's a perfect city car if you can go home every night and top up at home, bonus if work offer free charging. Just don't leave town with it, at least not yet until charging infrastructure has a consensus on standards and build up. Most owners would say you can do it, but you don't really want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    http://stks.freshpatents.com/Tesla-Motors-Inc-nm1.php

    how many patent holders hateraders in this thread?
    Those hinges sure changed the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Those hinges sure changed the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    http://stks.freshpatents.com/Tesla-Motors-Inc-nm1.php

    how many patent holders hateraders in this thread?
    Atta boy, don't let the haters get you down. You're right and with persistence you'll convince them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKR View Post
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    Atta boy, don't let the haters get you down. You're right and with persistence you'll convince them.
    lol. The won't, And with persistance, the hateraders will convince me that tesla has done nothing for the industry or the world.

    You can lead a man to tits but you cant fsrce him to stick his head between them

    no way Tesla has anmy impact.

    "It seems fitting given that Tesla Motors, under Musk's leadership, has been credited with pushing the entire automotive industry toward EVs. Even Bob Lutz, the chief rabble-rouser at General Motors, has hailed the company for giving the industry a swift kick in the ass and proving lithium-ion battery technology could work in cars.
    "Tesla gave us a major impetus," Lutz said a few months back during the Los Angeles Auto Show. "I'm thankful to Tesla for giving those of us who championed the Chevrolet Volt proof that lithium-ion batteries would work.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    All Tesla really does is produce a glitzy overpriced novelty car, and if we are really being frank, it isn't even a very good or useful one... it has had about as much impact on the automotive industry as Abercrombie & Fitch have had on the v-neck tee shirt market. The only area I give him credit is in somehow building a Bre-X-esque inflatable empire on his piece of shit car with nothing but the power of hype.

    One day people will wake up to the fact that his cars are fugly, poorly built, not very useful, and soon not even unique or competitive in the electric car niche... and the Musk bubble will pop. It will be one of the most dramatic scandals ever whenever it fails, so grab some popcorn!
    It's a beautiful, poorly built, useful 80-90% of time car. As long as you don't drive more than 300km per day and you always parks at a charger while you sleep, it could work. It's just not as versatile as gas cars until another revolution of battery/charging tech arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    All Tesla really does is produce a glitzy overpriced novelty car, and if we are really being frank, it isn't even a very good or useful one... it has had about as much impact on the automotive industry as Abercrombie & Fitch have had on the v-neck tee shirt market. The only area I give him credit is in somehow building a Bre-X-esque inflatable empire on his piece of shit car with nothing but the power of hype.

    One day people will wake up to the fact that his cars are fugly, poorly built, not very useful, and soon not even unique or competitive in the electric car niche... and the Musk bubble will pop. It will be one of the most dramatic scandals ever whenever it fails, so grab some popcorn!
    Ah, another phreak Tesla rant to make my day.




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