Serious question... conservatives....

[Toma]

So, a question for ya'll ..... WHY are you voting conservative? None of the arguements I have heard make ANY sense, either that, or you guys have a short memory.
Is it:
1) Liberals and the Sponsorship Scandal (300 million)?
2) Liberals "Raiding" the EI fund?
3) Gun registry ? (1.5 billion)
4) Harper promising 5% gst?

A few thoughts to ponder.... The Conservatives under Mulroney brought us the GST and "Free Trade", and even though THEY also raided the UI (EI) Fund, and having the GST "cash cow" managed to increase Canada's Debt FOUR fold.

So Liberals wasted money? What about the 400 BILLION Mulroney and the conservative pissed away?

There are some GREAT books on the Mulroney years if you need to educate yourself properly on the FUCK UP, Uneblieveable debt and corruption the last conservative Gov't left us.

Now, Under Harper, we risk assuming a new national Flag.... one that resembles the one of our southern neighbours, except with one more star....

Say good bye to Heath care
Hello spearatists
say goodbye to minority and womens rights.
risk going to some useless illegal war just cause the American did...

Harper is a self admitted US worshipper, and belongs down there. Don't throw Canada away to this idiot just becuase ALL government is corrupt in one way or another.

CANADA and NOT the US is the GREATEST Country in the World!

[civicrider]

i vote for him because im sick of paying for the socialism here in canada, why should my hard earned money go to some lazy white trash so they can have health care, so dumb young women who make dumb choices to have kids get money to sit at home and take care of that kid, why should i have to pay for other peoples dumb mistakes? you wanna get nocked up at 16 by some guy that leaves you go for it but dont goto to the government begging for money when things get tough. maybe if the government stops handing out my tax money to these people they will smarten up.

[civicrider]

and thats why i am voting for harper, if you wanna see your tax dollars wasted on them vote LIBERAL!!!

[tirebob]

Originally posted by civicrider
i vote for him because im sick of paying for the socialism here in canada, why should my hard earned money go to some lazy white trash so they can have health care, so dumb young women who make dumb choices to have kids get money to sit at home and take care of that kid, why should i have to pay for other peoples dumb mistakes? you wanna get nocked up at 16 by some guy that leaves you go for it but dont goto to the government begging for money when things get tough. maybe if the government stops handing out my tax money to these people they will smarten up.

ummmm... I think if you checked around the world, teen pregnancy has no corelation to the application of taxes...

When I was 16 I know I wasn't thinking "cool! I wanna fuck alot and I don't have to care because the liberals will give me other peoples tax money if I knock the brawd up!" lol!

[tsi_neal]

Originally posted by Toma
So, a question for ya'll ..... WHY are you voting conservative? None of the arguements I have heard make ANY sense, either that, or you guys have a short memory.
Is it:
1) Liberals and the Sponsorship Scandal (300 million)?
2) Liberals "Raiding" the EI fund?
3) Gun registry ? (1.5 billion)
4) Harper promising 5% gst?

A few thoughts to ponder.... The Conservatives under Mulroney brought us the GST and "Free Trade", and even though THEY also raided the UI (EI) Fund, and having the GST "cash cow" managed to increase Canada's Debt FOUR fold.

So Liberals wasted money? What about the 400 BILLION Mulroney and the conservative pissed away?

There are some GREAT books on the Mulroney years if you need to educate yourself properly on the FUCK UP, Uneblieveable debt and corruption the last conservative Gov't left us.

Now, Under Harper, we risk assuming a new national Flag.... one that resembles the one of our southern neighbours, except with one more star....

Say good bye to Heath care
Hello spearatists
say goodbye to minority and womens rights.
risk going to some useless illegal war just cause the American did...

Harper is a self admitted US worshipper, and belongs down there. Don't throw Canada away to this idiot just becuase ALL government is corrupt in one way or another.

CANADA and NOT the US is the GREATEST Country in the World!

This is the exact reason why im voting liberal... not because i feel liberals are better choice. but because history tends to repeat itself and the conservative history is pretty grim. (not that my vote actually matters tho, since im in harpers riding )

[civicrider]

i dunno younger pregnant girls i know seem to think its okay, its like an incentive to have kids, you get free money in the mail every month

[Toma]

Originally posted by civicrider
and thats why i am voting for harper, if you wanna see your tax dollars wasted on them vote LIBERAL!!!

Funny though isn't it....

While "wasting" all this money on "social programs", the liberals STILL managed to wipe out Conservative debt

Next!

[5hift]

Originally posted by civicrider
i vote for him because im sick of paying for the socialism here in canada, why should my hard earned money go to some lazy white trash so they can have health care, so dumb young women who make dumb choices to have kids get money to sit at home and take care of that kid, why should i have to pay for other peoples dumb mistakes? you wanna get nocked up at 16 by some guy that leaves you go for it but dont goto to the government begging for money when things get tough. maybe if the government stops handing out my tax money to these people they will smarten up.

This is the most ignorant , misinformed opinion one could have. I find it funny that you keep refering it to your tax money being spent, when I highly doubt you have personally even contributed a significant amount of money to taxes.

[tirebob]

Originally posted by civicrider
i dunno younger pregnant girls i know seem to think its okay, its like an incentive to have kids, you get free money in the mail every month

Kids fuck because it is fun... plain and simple. Ask the girls you know who got pregnant for fanancial gain...

[Lex350]

Originally posted by Toma
So, a question for ya'll ..... WHY are you voting conservative? None of the arguements I have heard make ANY sense, either that, or you guys have a short memory.
Is it:
1) Liberals and the Sponsorship Scandal (300 million)?
2) Liberals "Raiding" the EI fund?
3) Gun registry ? (1.5 billion)
4) Harper promising 5% gst?

A few thoughts to ponder.... The Conservatives under Mulroney brought us the GST and "Free Trade", and even though THEY also raided the UI (EI) Fund, and having the GST "cash cow" managed to increase Canada's Debt FOUR fold.

So Liberals wasted money? What about the 400 BILLION Mulroney and the conservative pissed away?

There are some GREAT books on the Mulroney years if you need to educate yourself properly on the FUCK UP, Uneblieveable debt and corruption the last conservative Gov't left us.

Now, Under Harper, we risk assuming a new national Flag.... one that resembles the one of our southern neighbours, except with one more star....

Say good bye to Heath care
Hello spearatists
say goodbye to minority and womens rights.
risk going to some useless illegal war just cause the American did...

Harper is a self admitted US worshipper, and belongs down there. Don't throw Canada away to this idiot just becuase ALL government is corrupt in one way or another.

CANADA and NOT the US is the GREATEST Country in the World!

I see you have drank that Liberal Kool-aid. Don't you think people have had enough of the boogie man scare tactics from Liberal campaigns over the years?
#1 Mulroney is not running for office right now last time I checked
#2 You liberal can bury your head in the sand all you like but Canada needs to US more than they need us. It's in our best interest to be on good terms with them. That said, we can still maintain our sovereignty and I believe that the conservative will do that.
#3 You sure like to gloss over the short comings of the Liberal party quickly. I guess you like getting fiscally raped. Go read the Sun today about the over 200 reasons not to vote liberal. It's an eye opener.

[civicrider]

Originally posted by 5hift


This is the most ignorant , misinformed opinion one could have. I find it funny that you keep refering it to your tax money being spent, when I highly doubt you have personally even contributed a significant amount of money to taxes.

not alot yet, thats why i am voting harper so maybe down the road i wont have to lose so much money being taxed.

toma your right in that sense but no matter what leaders will waste money on one thing on another, with conservative i think money will be wasted on things more important to me, unlike the liberals banning handguns, social benefits, minority rights, like it seems all the differnt groups in canada are saying "what about me?" gays get their marrage ect, maybe all the differnt races should get their own, liberals are trying to make everyone happy and in the end it will rip the country apart, canada needs a melting pot society in order to hold canada together, i dont agree with all harpers ideas but i think hes worth a try

[tsi_neal]

Originally posted by rotten42

I see you have drank that Liberal Kool-aid. Don't you think people have had enough of the boogie man scare tactics from Liberal campaigns over the years?
#1 Mulroney is not running for office right now last time I checked
#2 You liberal can bury your head in the sand all you like but Canada needs to US more than they need us. It's in our best interest to be on good terms with them. That said, we can still maintain our sovereignty and I believe that the conservative will do that.
#3 You sure like to gloss over the short comings of the Liberal party quickly. I guess you like getting fiscally raped. Go read the Sun today about the over 200 reasons not to vote liberal. It's an eye opener.

#1, The man doesnt make the party... this isnt the US and the priminister isnt all powerfull
#2 We currently ARE on good relations with the americans despite their war mongering bullshit
#3 Your problem is you read the sun for more than the sports section


A vote for the conservatives is a vote for bush, and Id hope that enough canadians are smarter than that.

[civicrider]

Originally posted by CMSbob
Kids fuck because it is fun... plain and simple. Ask the girls you know who got pregnant for fanancial gain...

of course they do it for fun but when it goes wrong theres no penalty, if they didnt get help from anyone maybe next time they would think twice before making that decision, so im saying they shouldnt be rewarded for that choice they should be educated more and have to figure out their own problems, because in the end those girls will never get a chance to go back to school and feed off welfare for life, bu fixing the problem before it starts everyone will be better off.
the young girls might finish school and make good money and get out of poverty and tax payers wont have to pay for others welfare

[tsi_neal]

Originally posted by civicrider


...
with conservative i think money will be wasted on things more important to me, unlike the liberals banning handguns, social benefits, minority rights, like it seems all the differnt groups in canada are saying "what about me?" gays get their marrage ect, ...

So what your saying is you want everyone walking the street packing a 9mm, you want to axe social services so the poor are much worse off and will be FORCED into crime and prostitution making our society a real ugly place, youre a racist (take them minortiy rights away?), and your anti gay to boot...

Somhow id have a pretty hard time believeing someone i didnt know at all was all those things, but it seems like a conservative vote is a step in that direction

[Toma]

Originally posted by rotten42


#3 You sure like to gloss over the short comings of the Liberal party quickly. I guess you like getting fiscally raped. Go read the Sun today about the over 200 reasons not to vote liberal. It's an eye opener.

I don't read trash

[civicrider]

is everyone packing a 9mm right now no? so why take away the right to own one, i would like to see the social services reduced and educate the poor people instead of feeding them free money, thats not helping them improve themselves, i want to IMPROVE their life, and by you supporting giving out handouts isnt going to accomplish that. i feel that if everyone got what they wanted nothing would work, should the KKK get a community center just like everyone else? how can you say no if you said yes to everyone else? not just on the racial line, gays can get married, maybe people who want to have multipul wives should that be legalized? seriously you cant let everyone have what they want, some religous groups have extreme rules should they be able to do those in canada since we allow everyone else to express their religon? tsi_neal you can call me a racist and a gay hater, answer those questions first and then think for a bit
thanks

[tirebob]

Originally posted by civicrider


of course they do it for fun but when it goes wrong theres no penalty, if they didnt get help from anyone maybe next time they would think twice before making that decision, so im saying they shouldnt be rewarded for that choice they should be educated more and have to figure out their own problems, because in the end those girls will never get a chance to go back to school and feed off welfare for life, bu fixing the problem before it starts everyone will be better off.
the young girls might finish school and make good money and get out of poverty and tax payers wont have to pay for others welfare

Sorry man, but what would YOU do with 16 year old pregant girls??? No matter what you would like to belive, not helping them is not going to stop ONE of them from getting pregnent. What is will do though is leave scared kids without a place to turn, which in turn will lead to increased abortions, abandonments, broken families, and yes... even crime. People without assistance (not all of course, but enough to make this a reality) will turn to various forms of survival, many of them dangerous and damaging.

Would you have it so that now they are left to fend for themselves at this age? So maybe they get kicked out (many come from non-loving families)... They have no money... Maybe they turn to crime to survive (since it's extrememly difficult to get a job at 16 that can support a new family and allow you to provide a safe and nurturing enviroment to raise a baby) and making drugs, selling drugs, or maybe even thier bodies, etc as is a lot quicker and easier way (in thier confused and scared minds) to just survive....

This is not a fear tactic... It is the truth... Sure this story will vary with everyone, but in the end you will not make it go away by not providing a safety net... As a matter of fact you are going to make it worse for society, and HELL for that baby and 16 year old mother... Good job... I know I would be proud to live in your country...

[eljefe]

Originally posted by civicrider
is everyone packing a 9mm right now no? so why take away the right to own one, i would like to see the social services reduced and educate the poor people instead of feeding them free money, thats not helping them improve themselves, i want to IMPROVE their life, and by you supporting giving out handouts isnt going to accomplish that. i feel that if everyone got what they wanted nothing would work, should the KKK get a community center just like everyone else? how can you say no if you said yes to everyone else? not just on the racial line, gays can get married, maybe people who want to have multipul wives should that be legalized? seriously you cant let everyone have what they want, some religous groups have extreme rules should they be able to do those in canada since we allow everyone else to express their religon? tsi_neal you can call me a racist and a gay hater, answer those questions first and then think for a bit
thanks

I am almost speechless

[Kirbs17]

Answers 1, 2 and 3. Plus the Liberals are imcompetent, they've been in power for to long.

[Xtrema]

Like I said before, crime and punishment is why I'm supporting PC. You know Liberals are corrupted, they need a wake up call.

It's not like PC ain't corrupt, all governments are to a level. That's how things get done. But when it's getting out of hand, and where you live keep getting the short end of the stick, it's time for a change.

Also, it's pretty ignorant to compare this PC to the old PC in the 80's. That was a PC rooted in the east which sway more to the left just like the current liberals. The current PC is mainly rooted in Reform which is based out of west and is positioned slightly to the right.

I don't know why people keep falling for Liberals fear tactic. We still have the senate (although a lame one) and the courts to keep the new government in check.

And stop this vote Harper = Bush BS. Yes, they will align better but that's doesn't mean Harper will support the next war. And truth be known, US is so exhausted right now, they can't start any shit til the next government comes in anyway.