No replacement for displacement? =)

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by mustang
Horsepower and Torque isn't magic, its physics, Bigger Engine = More Power

That's a pretty bold statement to say when your new and on a mostly import forum.

Keep in mind a rotory is 1.3L, beefed all up it can make enough power to make mustang owners beg for forgiveness.

Also I don't think I have ever heard of horsepower and torque reffered to as a magical thing.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Hollywood


That's a pretty bold statement to say when your new and on a mostly import forum.

Keep in mind a rotory is 1.3L, beefed all up it can make enough power to make mustang owners beg for forgiveness.

Also I don't think I have ever heard of horsepower and torque reffered to as a magical thing.

I can think of at least one rotary in the works that would like to prove "Mustang's" statement wrong

[300rwhp]

you guys have to make everything into a import vs domestic fight ,

GROW UP

bigger discplacement does mean more power even if the 1.3 was doubled in size it would make more power

STOP FIGHTING ABOUT THIS SHIT

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by 300rwhp
you guys have to make everything into a import vs domestic fight

Not everything. Imports hate imports too.

Originally posted by 300rwhp
GROW UP

I am. It's my birthday soon.

Originally posted by 300rwhp
bigger discplacement does mean more power even if the 1.3 was doubled in size it would make more power

But then it would be too heavy and may not fit.

Originally posted by 300rwhp
STOP FIGHTING ABOUT THIS SHIT

I can because it's a forum.

Don't get me wrong I like mustangs, they are fast, but the 5L is not a god just because it's bigger.

[rage2]

Originally posted by 300rwhp
bigger discplacement does mean more power even if the 1.3 was doubled in size it would make more power

[kenny]

I dunno why people always fight when someone brings up the fact that there is no replacement for displacement. Its a true statement, sure you can make a small engine deliver incredible amounts of power, but all other things equal, more displacement means more power!

Lets keep this thread civilized!! =]

[ninjak84]

Originally posted by Hollywood
I am. It's my birthday soon.

Happy B-Day

Originally posted by kenny
Lets keep this thread civilized!! =]

Yeah that too. I can see this becoming a Probe, J-Body, and Mustang bashing session...
Jeff, stay away!!!

[Maxt]

Its more than just the displacement, its the volumetric and thermal efficiency of an engine on top of how much air and fuel it gulps, my 80 cid motor can wipe the floor with engines alot larger than it, mainly because of its volumetric efficiency, yes generally a large engine will produce more power, as long as all the other aspects of the engines ability to make power are changed linearly with the displacement, which 9 times out of 10 are not..Maxt

[Ekliptix]

volumetric efficiency, and hp under the curve between rpm shift points. Torque would be nice too, as long as it didn't dall off.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Maxt
my 80 cid motor can wipe the floor with engines alot larger than it, mainly because of its volumetric efficiency

On a rotary, it's mainly due to how displacement is calculated, and how many power strokes there are per cycle .

If you figure how much air it gulps per cycle (as compared to a 4 stroke piston engine), it's actually not the most efficient engine there is. The Renesis is much better though.

[Hollywood]

Fot the record I did not start this thread.

[THREE40SEVEN]

I have big engine. It go good....
I also have a magic wand, and little gnomes i can call my friends....
They treat me well, so i give them respect.

[rage2]

lol

Displacement is good, I wish I had more, racegas sucks .

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by kenny
I dunno why people always fight when someone brings up the fact that there is no replacement for displacement. Its a true statement, sure you can make a small engine deliver incredible amounts of power, but all other things equal, more displacement means more power!

Lets keep this thread civilized!! =]

but all other things equal, more displacement means more power = TRUE

no replacement for displacement = FALSE



see the difference?

[Lo)2enz0]

Originally posted by Hollywood

Don't get me wrong I like mustangs, they are fast, but the 5L is not a god just because it's bigger.

i totally agree, ussually the 5.0 guys always act like they are better on the roads than all of the import guys.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Lo)2enz0
i totally agree, ussually the 5.0 guys always act like they are better on the roads than all of the import guys.

haha that's because they are! Most street "challenges" are straight line drags, where they are up there on the food chain!

[SmelltheRubber]

Originally posted by rage2


haha that's because they are! Most street "challenges" are straight line drags, where they are up there on the food chain!

Finally, someone with a clue.

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by Lo)2enz0


i totally agree, ussually the 5.0 guys always act like they are better on the roads than all of the import guys.

Really? I find it the opposite. Everytime I come across an import in the truck and give them a little rev they give me the "There's no way you can keep up to my 17 second aerodynamically corrected honda civic" look. So my generalized statement is this: Import owners obviously don't know anything about other cars, or their own car for that matter. And here's a freebe: Only owners of slow cars care if they can 'beat you through the twisties'. How's that for generalizations? I have tons more if you want them...

[kenny]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
but all other things equal, more displacement means more power = TRUE

no replacement for displacement = FALSE

see the difference?

You're not supposed to take the phrase at face value. An example would be a car modded up the ying yang with all the replacements for displacement. Once every little bit of power is squeezed out of the motor, increase the displacement, and voila more power! haha well maybe not so simple but thats the whole idea behind that phrase. Someone just created it cuz it rhymes and generally sounds neat

[Maxt]

Originally posted by rage2


On a rotary, it's mainly due to how displacement is calculated, and how many power strokes there are per cycle .

If you figure how much air it gulps per cycle (as compared to a 4 stroke piston engine), it's actually not the most efficient engine there is. The Renesis is much better though.

There are no strokes in a rotary,and there are 6 continuous cycles in a 2 rotor you mean its how many power pulses there are in one rotation of the eccentric shaft, a rotary gives all of its capacity on one rotation where as the piston motor does it in 2 on a multicylinder engine. Thats mechanical efficiency at work.. Plus even an N/A rotary has volumetric efficiency well over 100%, thanks to the fact it has no valves or camshafts, and its intake cycles per rotation are high. even calculated as a 2.6 litre engine, ever see a 2.6 litre engine use a 650 cfm carb, or a T-88 turbo with a 1.32 a/r ? The thing it does suck for though is passing emissions, since alot of the charge goes out of the tailpipe on port overlap.....Maxt