3rd Gen 4WS Lude Vs. 5th Gen Lude

[Weapon_R]

I know a guy that thinks that a 3rd generation lude with 4ws can outhandle a brand new one. I disagree. Anyone have any experiences with both that can help me prove this to him?

[James]

lol ,i think i know who that would be ....not sure how great a new lude handles, but im assuming pretty well, i know the 3rd gen 4ws ludes can hold there own, but i doubt there better than a new one.

[buh_buh]

only one way to find out.

[shadowz]

Actually in the 3rd and 4th gen the 4WS was effective but only to a minimum, u turns are such were a breeze but 4WS vs. modified prelude suspension the 4WS did lose, so on the subject of 5th gen vs. 4WS 3rd gen I feel that it would be quite even

[buh_buh]

5th gen type-sh or base? Type-SH was voted best handling car under $30k in C&D magazine a couple years back.

[Weapon_R]

Best vs. best.

4ws vs SH

[GTS Jeff]

lol why are we having this argument?

like, um yeah, honda just decided to make a car that was 8 years newer handle worse...

[max_boost]

Weapon R
Just bitch slap him
Pointless arguing

[max_boost]

But wait.....based on INitial D......wouldn't the old Corollas out handle the new ones?

[VWhooligan]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
lol why are we having this argument?

like, um yeah, honda just decided to make a car that was 8 years newer handle worse...

alot of newer cars handle worse compared to their older models. VW's are an example of this. The MK4 Golf and Jetta handle absolutely terrible, where as earlier models like the Mk2 handled well.

Newer cars have more luxuries (more weight) so the body roll is increased sometimes if precautions aren't made.

[calarina]

Isn't the 4WS only up to a specific speed? Up until about 30 or 40 km/hr. I wouldn't want to be driving at 110km/hr and turn on and offramp, and oversteer because I have 4WS :tongue:

[redline_13000]

its a 2001 se, the thing is an offroader, and like buh buh said, only one way to find out , the driver makes a difference to ayre

[ninspeed]

Originally posted by calarina
Isn't the 4WS only up to a specific speed? Up until about 30 or 40 km/hr. I wouldn't want to be driving at 110km/hr and turn on and offramp, and oversteer because I have 4WS :tongue:

I belive at a sertain speed the wheels will turn the same direction( like the quadasteer system on the new silverados)...

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by max_boost
But wait.....based on INitial D......wouldn't the old Corollas out handle the new ones?

actually they do...very very easily. of course, thats comparing brand new to brand new. as with any other 18 year old car, the bushings are poo by now. and theres also the thing about comparing the gts to the newer non-gts models.

Originally posted by VWhooligan


alot of newer cars handle worse compared to their older models. VW's are an example of this. The MK4 Golf and Jetta handle absolutely terrible, where as earlier models like the Mk2 handled well.

Newer cars have more luxuries (more weight) so the body roll is increased sometimes if precautions aren't made.

well yea, the golf and jetta are hardly performance cars anyway and as such vw hasnt bothered to improve the performance aspect. any sports car line up will improve over time, like the lude, integra, nissans Z car, supra, celica, mustang, etc etc...

[buh_buh]

Originally posted by redline_13000
its a 2001 se, the thing is an offroader,

I beg to differ

[three.eighteen.]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff

well yea, the golf and jetta are hardly performance cars anyway and as such vw hasnt bothered to improve the performance aspect. any sports car line up will improve over time, like the lude, integra, nissans Z car, supra, celica, mustang, etc etc...

last time i checked gti means performance in terms of vw and those old rabbit/golf gti's are pretty nimble...

[sml]

Originally posted by redline_13000
its a 2001 se, the thing is an offroader, and like buh buh said, only one way to find out , the driver makes a difference to ayre

Please define offroader??? I dont think anybody ever said my car was too high... but I did get a lot of people saying that it's too low... I think you're talking about the RSX!

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by three.eighteen.


last time i checked gti means performance in terms of vw and those old rabbit/golf gti's are pretty nimble...

and thats why the newer gti models are faster than the older ones.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by sml


Please define offroader??? I dont think anybody ever said my car was too high... but I did get a lot of people saying that it's too low... I think you're talking about the RSX!

yet somehow an rsx will still outhandle a lude

[redline_13000]

Originally posted by sml


Please define offroader??? I dont think anybody ever said my car was too high... but I did get a lot of people saying that it's too low... I think you're talking about the RSX!

i dont know how high or low your car is, but his car, compared to mine, is an offroader like a said, twice as high at least.