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    Default 650,000 DEAD in Iraq SINCE 2003 US invasion...


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    Wait, but let's not forget... 9/11, which had nothing to do with Iraq, killed almost 3000 Americans. Obviously that justifies all of this.


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    let me stir this thread up a bit.....

    Who should be held responsible for this? USA?

    are the evil Americans forcing these people to equip themselves with explosives an kill each other on a daily basis?

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    Systematic genocide is better than civil war?

    I think so in the case of Iraq.

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    2% of the total population. Neat.
    Was the #1 Forum Warrior

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    pointless anti-american thread of the week

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    Originally posted by 7thgenvic
    pointless anti-american thread of the week
    we`re all obviously quite surprised by the person who started the thread too

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    Default Re: 650,000 DEAD in Iraq SINCE 2003 US invasion...

    Originally posted by Toma
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6040054.stm

    Gross.
    What you are saying is that the muslim religion is no longer the fastest growing?

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    Originally posted by 7thgenvic
    pointless anti-american thread of the week



    Iraq pre-war death toll annually = 143 000

    143 000 x 3.5yrs = 500, 000

    The "missing 100,000" can thus be attributed the US-led war and post-2003 insurgence and terrorism.

    100 000 in 3.5yrs = 28 500 per year.

    not all that bad for toppling a dictator.

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    THE Iraqi government today described as "exaggerated" an independent US study which estimated that 655,000 Iraqis had died since the 2003 US invasion.

    US President George W. Bush had similarly called the report "not credible".

    The study estimated that one Iraqi in 40 had died as a result of the conflict by comparing the death rates from the period before the war to the period from March 2003 to June 2006.

    "This figure, which in reality has no basis, is exaggerated," said Iraqi government spokesman Ali Debbagh.

    "It is a figure which flies in the face of the most obvious truths," he said, calling on research institutions to adopt precise and transparent criteria especially when the research concerns victim tolls.

    Mr Bush said at a White House media conference that he and his top military advisers believe "the methodology is pretty well discredited" in the study.

    The US president in the past has estimated the number of Iraqi deaths to be closer to 30,000, and reaffirmed that number today.

    "I stand by the figure," he said. "Six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at ... it's not credible."

    Mr Bush also said: "I do know that a lot of innocent people have died, and it troubles me and grieves me."

    The research by the Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland was to be published tomorrow by the British journal The Lancet.

    In October 2004, a paper also published in The Lancet calculated that almost 100,000 deaths had occurred in Iraq between March 2003 and September 2004 as a result of violence and heart attack and aggravated health problems.

    Updating this, a team led by Gilbert Burnham of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health sought to make an estimate of deaths in the post-invasion period.

    They randomly selected 47 sites across Iraq, comprising 1849 households and 12,801 people.

    Interviewers asked householders about births, deaths and migration and if there had been a death since January 2002 and, if so, asked to see a death certificate to note the cause.

    Of the 629 deaths recorded, 547, or 87 per cent, were in the post-invasion period.

    Extrapolated across the country, 654,965 premature deaths - 2.5 per cent of the population - have occurred since March 2003, the study said.

    Around 601,000 were due to violence; around half of the deaths in this category were due to gunfire.

    The study acknowledges weaknesses in its data collection, saying that the "extreme insecurity" during the survey limited the number of teams that ventured out to interview families and the time they could spend interviewing.

    But there was also the possibility that some deaths may have gone unrecorded, it said.
    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006003,00.html

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    The US president in the past has estimated the number of Iraqi deaths to be closer to 30,000, and reaffirmed that number today.

    "I stand by the figure," he said. "Six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at ... it's not credible."
    Well wherever the truth lies, which is likely inbetween I just love to hear George Bush speaking about credibility in regards to Iraq

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    That's funny. So they add up a ballpark figure that likely includes natural causes, accidents and drunk driving deaths.. then add in civilian deaths caused by insurgents and other forms of terrorists that are bullshit "freedom fighters" and they produce this horseshit?





    LOL

    BBC, enough said.

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    Originally posted by eljefe


    Well wherever the truth lies, which is likely inbetween I just love to hear George Bush speaking about credibility in regards to Iraq

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    LOL.....that's what I thougt lol

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    Originally posted by NGRPLZ.NET

    LOL

    BBC, enough said.
    ahahahahhahahaa... what a toooool

    They are simply reporting the findings of an analysis by an AMERICAN University.... John Hopkins I think it was lol.

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    Gonna have to kill a *LOT* more people over there before we get rid of the threat.

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    Originally posted by Toma


    ahahahahhahahaa... what a toooool

    They are simply reporting the findings of an analysis by an AMERICAN University.... John Hopkins I think it was lol.
    Of "How many people dies since the beginning of the war"

    right?

    That's pretty broad.

    How many people in Canada have died since the beginning of the "US-LED-INVASION-OF-IRAQ"

    I bet you practice saying that really fast don't you.. mumble it to yourself wilst at work.

    I just accidentally drank some of my own piss.

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    The John Hopkins researchers argue their statistical approach is more reliable than counting dead bodies, given the obstacles preventing more comprehensive fieldwork in the violent and insecure conditions of Iraq.
    Did you really think that people would miss that? Are you fucked?

    How could "STATS" be more accurate than hard numbers? Are you suggesting that they missed some half million dead bodies?

    Sounds like toma has some more work to do, you anti-american slimeball.

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    Are the majority of these deaths not caused by suicide bombers?
    The US troops are not randomly walking around killing people..



    Thats hardly the US's fault any way.. they were just to chicken shit to do this under Saddam cause he would have squashed any insurgency. If anything the US is too soft on these scum bags.

    Just keep spinning it so it makes the US come out the only bad guy.

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    "This figure, which in reality has no basis, is exaggerated," said Iraqi government spokesman Ali Debbagh
    even the Iraqi Government thinks its exaggerated.

    how can some of you people still deny you are anti-american?

    its okay, we all know bush is an idiot. thats why opposition partys are tallying up these inaccurate death tolls to make bush look worse then he already does.

    isnt it election time soon anyways? lol

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