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    Default China's housing boom spells trouble for boyfriends (being single in China sucks)

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    China's housing boom spells trouble for boyfriends
    Many women won't marry a man who doesn't own a home. This recent shift, along with soaring real estate prices, has created a woefully frustrated class of bachelors.

    By David Pierson, Los Angeles Times

    June 21, 2010

    Reporting from Beijing
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    Mike Zhang considered himself serious boyfriend material. He knew what to order at an Italian restaurant. He could mix a tasty margarita. And he always volunteered to carry his girlfriend's handbag.

    Then came the deal breaker. Zhang, a 28-year-old language tutor and interpreter, couldn't afford an apartment in the capital's scorching property market.

    Rather than waste any more time, his girlfriend of more than two years dumped him.

    Zhang's misfortune is not uncommon. China's housing boom has created a woefully frustrated class of bachelors.

    Home prices in major cities including Beijing and Shanghai have easily doubled over the last year as families and investors rush to grab a piece of the Chinese dream. A typical 1,000-square-foot, two-bedroom, one-bath apartment in the capital now costs about $274,000. That's 22 times the average annual income of a Beijing resident.

    Unlike in the United States, where home buying traditionally takes place after marriage, owning a place in China has recently become a prerequisite for tying the knot. Experts said securing an apartment in this market signals that a man is successful, family-oriented and able to weather challenging financial circumstances. Put succinctly, homeownership has become the ultimate symbol of virility in today's China.

    "A man is not a man if he doesn't own a house," said Chen Xiaomin, director of the Women's Studies Center at the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law. "Marriage is becoming more and more materialistic. This is a huge change in Chinese society. No matter how confident a woman is, she will lose face if her boyfriend or husband doesn't have a house."

    Dating websites are now awash with women stipulating that hopefuls must come with a residence (and often a set of wheels) in tow.

    "I'm 25 years old, looking for a boyfriend.... I want you to have an apartment and a car.... The apartment has to be built after 2000 and the car has to be better than a minivan," read one post on the popular Chinese Web portal Baidu.

    Material matters weren't quite so important when previous generations courted. Most Chinese were poor. Property was controlled by the state and homes were doled out through an individual's work unit. When China was more agrarian, marriages were usually arranged, and it was customary for a bride's family to provide a dowry — be it money, bedding or even a sewing machine.

    But economic reform and mass urbanization in the last 30 years have upended these norms. In 1998, the central government launched one of the largest transfers of wealth in human history by allowing Chinese to buy their homes from the state, often with subsidies. The privatization of property spurred the creation of a commercialized housing industry with developers and investors.

    Young Chinese are coming of age at a time of exploding wealth and rising expectations for material success. In a survey last year on Sohu.com, a popular Web portal similar to Yahoo, 73% of respondents said homeownership was a necessity for marriage. An almost equal percentage said they had difficulty buying an apartment.

    "Not everyone has rich parents who can help you buy an apartment," said Chen Kechun, a 25-year-old Beijing native whose relationship disintegrated after his six-month search for an affordable home proved fruitless. "I learned that if a girl decides to marry you, you better have a strong financial foundation."

    Growing male frustrations have given rise to a new female archetype: the bai jin nu, or gold-digger.

    On the wildly popular TV reality program "Don't Bother Me Unless You're Serious," one woman tried to size up a suitor by asking matter-of-factly, "Do you have money?"

    The man cut to the chase: "I have three flats in Shanghai."

    The hard-boiled bachelorette, Ma Nuo, has gone on to become one of China's most recognizable bai jin nu. Marry for love? Fat chance, said the material girl: "I would rather cry in a BMW than smile on the back of my boyfriend's bicycle."

    Ma's mercenary take on matrimony may be extreme; still, single women in China are driven by intense societal pressure to find a mate who can deliver the digs.

    Though more women are becoming career oriented, China remains stubbornly traditional. Males are expected to be breadwinners while females rear a family's only child.

    "My parents think it's important.... They would rather I marry someone who owns his own property," said Wei Na, 28, an advertising saleswoman in Beijing. "It just makes you feel more safe if a man has his own place. I think most women feel the same way."

    Fang Jing is trying to hold on to his relationship. The 29-year-old has been trying to persuade his girlfriend to share in the $250,000 cost of a Shanghai apartment so that they can wed next year.

    "She didn't agree immediately. She's still hoping I can take care of it myself," Fang said. "But we have to face reality. In Shanghai it's difficult for one person to afford an apartment. When we face something as important as this, men and women have to be equal."

    Fang will need about $75,000 to afford the 30% down payment on the home the couple want. That's a lofty goal, considering that the computer technician is between jobs and has no savings. He's counting on both sets of parents to chip in.

    Wang Haijun, a real estate agent on Beijing's east side, said he can always tell when a desperate bachelor walks into his office.

    "They're always the least rational buyers," Wang said. "They don't care how little money they have. They just want an apartment as soon as possible. They take on a mortgage with the longest terms and highest interest rates. But they have no choice. They have to get married. I feel sorry for them."

    Zhang, the language tutor and interpreter, wanted to marry his girlfriend, a receptionist at a language school. The two shared a love for American TV — "Sex and the City" for her and "Lost" for him.

    The closer they grew, the more she asked about their future and a home.

    "I told her I loved her and would marry her if she didn't mind not having a house," Zhang said. "But she said no. I told her I wanted a house too, but I didn't know how. I'm not rich."

    Zhang began checking real estate listings in his neighborhood a year and a half ago. He was stunned. An apartment of about 1,000 square feet cost $150,000. Zhang's parents, who run a modest bakery in northeast China, offered to help. But the $30,000 down payment was still well out of reach.

    His girlfriend grew increasingly concerned. She wanted to get married while her grandparents were still healthy and could celebrate her wedding. Last December, she called off the relationship.

    Zhang says he's finally over the breakup. His appetite has returned. He has even gone on a couple of dates.

    He acknowledges he must begin saving money for an apartment, but he resents being judged by his inability to purchase property. He would rather have a woman love him for his charm than for the roof he puts over her head.

    "People's values have changed," he said. "It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy or you're fun or good natured or have a sense of humor. They don't care. All they care about is a house."


    the hot material girl, Ma Nuo?


    http://www.hotcute.cn/celebrity/chin...rl-ma-nuo.html
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    To be expected. A nation that has a m:f ratio THAT way off, means the girls can be as materialistic as they want, with no repercussions.
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    Asian girls

    But this bugged me

    "A man is not a man if he doesn't own a house," said Chen Xiaomin, director of the Women's Studies Center

    Now whos being sexist?

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    "People's values have changed," he said. "It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy or you're fun or good natured or have a sense of humor. They don't care. All they care about is a house."
    yeah values have changed because the mainlander chicks are just now catching up with the golddigging mentality that comes with any capitalistic society whereas this has already happened in HK a while back.

    and that Melissa Ma Nuo chick, well as whoorish and stuck up as she sounds she's just doing what 3/4 of the chicks in hollywood do on a daily basis, she's just the first one to actually do it in China.

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    Default Re: Re: China's housing boom spells trouble for boyfriends (being single in China sucks)

    Originally posted by n1zm0


    yeah values have changed because the mainlander chicks are just now catching up with the golddigging mentality that comes with any capitalistic society whereas this has already happened in HK a while back.

    and that Melissa Ma Nuo chick, well as whoorish and stuck up as she sounds she's just doing what 3/4 of the chicks in hollywood do on a daily basis, she's just the first one to actually do it in China.
    That's never really changed though. Chinese culture has always placed fortune and wealth among one of its main priorities. For the Chinese, it's almost expected of a (Chinese) woman to find a rich and successful husband.
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    And he always volunteered to carry his girlfriend's handbag.
    I found his problem in the 1st paragraph.

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    Originally posted by Tik-Tok
    To be expected. A nation that has a m:f ratio THAT way off, means the girls can be as materialistic as they want, with no repercussions.
    This

    Originally posted by sexualbanana


    That's never really changed though. Chinese culture has always placed fortune and wealth among one of its main priorities. For the Chinese, it's almost expected of a (Chinese) woman to find a rich and successful husband.
    And this.

    Finding an Asian girl over there that isn't materialistic will have one or more of the following qualities:

    a) ugly
    b) stupid / uneducated
    c) old
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    Originally posted by 911fever
    ....And he always volunteered to carry his girlfriend's handbag.
    Fuck can't stand those fucking Chinese boys who carry their gf/wife's purse. Wake up!!! she isn't the only walking hole on earth so stop worshiping her and grow a set of balls.

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    Originally posted by G


    Fuck can't stand those fucking Chinese boys who carry their gf/wife's purse. Wake up!!! she isn't the only walking hole on earth so stop worshiping her and grow a set of balls.

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    I don't know whats worse, carrying their purse or carrying a man purse.

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    Default Re: Re: Re: China's housing boom spells trouble for boyfriends (being single in China sucks)

    Originally posted by Jlude




    I held my wife's purse ONCE, at which point her sister pointed at me and yelled "PURSE BITCH!!!".

    Haven't touched it since, lol.

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    Default Re: Re: Re: Re: China's housing boom spells trouble for boyfriends (being single in China sucks)

    Originally posted by Tik-Tok




    I held my wife's purse ONCE, at which point her sister pointed at me and yelled "PURSE BITCH!!!".

    Haven't touched it since, lol.

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    Originally posted by Tik-Tok




    I held my wife's purse ONCE, at which point her sister pointed at me and yelled "PURSE BITCH!!!".

    Haven't touched it since, lol.
    When my wife and I first dated she inadvertently handed me her purse so that she can try on a jacket. The purse went straight from my hands to the floor. She never handed me her purse again. She now agrees that men should be men not purse carrying lady boys.

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    OK, the thing is, the Chinese gold diggers in China are still cheaper than the ones in Calgary right?!? We have the benefit of the conversion? Ya? LOL
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    Originally posted by 98type_r
    I don't know whats worse, carrying their purse or carrying a man purse.
    I've seen guys carry both at the same time.
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    Originally posted by max_boost
    OK, the thing is, the Chinese gold diggers in China are still cheaper than the ones in Calgary right?!? We have the benefit of the conversion? Ya? LOL
    LV cost the same everywhere unless you buy fake shit.

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    Originally posted by Xtrema


    LV cost the same everywhere unless you buy fake shit.
    Yeah well aside from material goods, I guess that wouldn't make her a gold digger if she wasn't after the designer shit.

    I'm just saying it's cheaper to take them out to eat, go on trips, etc. because cost of living is cheaper BUT if she's all high and almighty, that's probably gonna cost a lot too.

    I just remember taking all my China friends out drinking and the bill came to like $400 RMB and everyone got hammered at KTV. It was fucking hilariously fun and cheap too. They thought I was so baller

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    Originally posted by max_boost


    Yeah well aside from material goods, I guess that wouldn't make her a gold digger if she wasn't after the designer shit.

    I'm just saying it's cheaper to take them out to eat, go on trips, etc. because cost of living is cheaper BUT if she's all high and almighty, that's probably gonna cost a lot too.

    I just remember taking all my China friends out drinking and the bill came to like $400 RMB and everyone got hammered at KTV. It was fucking hilariously fun and cheap too. They thought I was so baller
    You are a baller. You drive a 05 NSX

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    No biggie, those Asians have their crazy blow up dolls and vending machines with used underwear.

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    Originally posted by Speed_69

    You are a baller. You drive a 05 NSX
    with the exception of MaxBoost, it's hard being an Azn man anywhere.

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