Parenting: How I defeated the red haired clown.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by jazzyb
good on you man.... I plan on doing the same.

Ahhh it's only the methodology that's being questioned, not the motive behind it.

[DeleriousZ]

Originally posted by zipdoa
Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils or trans fats are commonly understood to be bad for you. These are present in the majority of fast foods.

The sad part is we can thank the health regulation people for pushing for those to be used in the fast food industry, rather than the stuff they were using before which was high in saturated fats, low in trans fats.

[sabad66]

Originally posted by zipdoa


High temperature deep frying makes food carcinogenic, much like a blackened steak is carcinogenic.

Just because it contains calories doesn't make it OK to eat.

Fast Food and Pop IS analogous to Cigarettes, and in the future I wouldn't be surprised to see the same sort of warnings on these food products that are currently on cigarette packs.

Most fast food = toxic food. Just because it doesn't kill you instantly doesn't mean it isn't harming you. The same way a cigarette doesn't kill you instantly, but still damages your body.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils or trans fats are commonly understood to be bad for you. These are present in the majority of fast foods.

Just because fast food has trace amounts of certain vitamins and minerals, doesn't make automatically warrant inclusion in a healthy diet. Just because Cinnamon Toast Crunch has certain nutrients added doesn't mean it's a healthy choice for breakfast.

Perceptions will change.

edit:

And to be clear, I'm not against fast food. I do eat it sparingly. I just don't try to convince myself that because trace nutrients are present that it's somehow contributing to a healthy diet.

Which ingredient of a Big Mac (or any other fast food burger) is high temp deep fried? When it comes down to it, it's bread, grilled meat, veggies, and cheese. The only thing I could see being remotely carcinogenic is maybe processed cheese? Sure the macros or whatever it's called is not optimal ratios, but I just don't agree with it being actually poisonous

Sort of on topic - does anyone remember how cool it was when you parents brought you McDonald's for lunch in elementary? Kids would flock to you asking for 1 or 2 fries lol.

[know1edge]

Originally posted by sabad66

Which ingredient of a Big Mac (or any other fast food burger) is high temp deep fried? When it comes down to it, it's bread, grilled meat, veggies, and cheese. The only thing I could see being remotely carcinogenic is maybe processed cheese? Sure the macros or whatever it's called is not optimal ratios, but I just don't agree with it being actually poisonous

How about a crispy chicken or filet o fish?
If you don't think eating mechanically separated scrap meat that's soaked in ammonia to kill the bacteria is poisonous, then carry on.

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by zipdoa


High temperature deep frying makes food carcinogenic, much like a blackened steak is carcinogenic.

Just because it contains calories doesn't make it OK to eat.

Fast Food and Pop IS analogous to Cigarettes, and in the future I wouldn't be surprised to see the same sort of warnings on these food products that are currently on cigarette packs.

Most fast food = toxic food. Just because it doesn't kill you instantly doesn't mean it isn't harming you. The same way a cigarette doesn't kill you instantly, but still damages your body.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils or trans fats are commonly understood to be bad for you. These are present in the majority of fast foods.

Just because fast food has trace amounts of certain vitamins and minerals, doesn't make automatically warrant inclusion in a healthy diet. Just because Cinnamon Toast Crunch has certain nutrients added doesn't mean it's a healthy choice for breakfast.

Perceptions will change.

many foods are also radioactive. OMG THE SKY IS FALLING. BOYCOTT BANANAS!

...AND MEAT IS MURDER!!!

[sxtasy]

mmm mcnuggets

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by know1edge


If you don't think eating mechanically separated scrap meat that's soaked in ammonia to kill the bacteria is poisonous, then carry on.

Since you have such a strong opinion about this, do you mind explaining the significance of the bolded words?

[know1edge]

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[sabad66]

Originally posted by know1edge


How about a crispy chicken or filet o fish?
If you don't think eating mechanically separated scrap meat that's soaked in ammonia to kill the bacteria is poisonous, then carry on.

Originally posted by sxtasy
mmm mcnuggets

Not mechanically separated/soaked in ammonia, and those videos are not mcdonalds. I'm probably starting to sound like a mcdonalds spokesman, but here you go:
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/food/a...mcnuggets.html

Those are 3 stories from some random soccer moms they brought to the factory to give a first hand account.

And here's an interesting page as well where they answer any question you have:
http://yourquestions.mcdonalds.ca/questions/17563

But i'm sure nobody will read and instead keep spreading these dumb myths around.

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by know1edge
SORRY, MAYBE IF I SAID SPRAYED I WOULD HAVE CREDIBILITY

you don't know wtf you're talking about.

[know1edge]

Originally posted by sabad66






Not mechanically separated/soaked in ammonia, and those videos are not mcdonalds. I'm probably starting to sound like a mcdonalds spokesman, but here you go:
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/food/a...mcnuggets.html

Those are 3 stories from some random soccer moms they brought to the factory to give a first hand account.

And here's an interesting page as well where they answer any question you have:
http://yourquestions.mcdonalds.ca/questions/17563

But i'm sure nobody will read and instead keep spreading these dumb myths around.

Look at the dates of those articles and press releases made by Mcdonalds before that date

[sabad66]

Are you Caleb H from port coquitlam? I sorted by most recent and the first question was about ammonia lol
http://yourquestions.mcdonalds.ca/questions/20991

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by FixedGear


many foods are also radioactive. OMG THE SKY IS FALLING. BOYCOTT BANANAS!

...AND MEAT IS MURDER!!!

[Tik-Tok]

What a bland existence you would have if you never did or ate or drank anything that was bad for you.

On the plus side, you could be smug as hell all the way to your grave (which could be sooner or later than someone who ate and drank junk their whole life)

[FixedGear]

zipdoa, you just appear to have a very superficial understanding of science, which compromises your opinions about human nutrition.

[sxtasy]

Originally posted by sabad66






Not mechanically separated/soaked in ammonia, and those videos are not mcdonalds.

But i'm sure nobody will read and instead keep spreading these dumb myths around.

Your right that video may not actually be mcnuggets and it also may not be applicable to Canada.

But, I still think the food is shit. Part of Mcdonalds success is their powerful marketing tailored to kids. Marketing knows that kids have a lot of purchasing power (look at crazy parents fighting over must have christmas toys to keep their kids happy). Winning them over as kids are also more likely to have them as customers when they are teens and adults.

[Mibz]

If we stopped enjoying things that were marketed to us we'd stop enjoying a lot of things that are quite enjoyable.

You can't fault a business for doing what it takes to make money. Call it greasy to market to kids if you want, but it's still largely in the parents' hands whether or not the children consume it, play with it or otherwise experience it. You're right that kids who eat McDonalds are more likely to keep eating it when they're older, but to assume that kids who don't eat McDonalds as children will never have it as adults, or that kids who eat McDonalds will never stop eating it, isn't giving people any credit for having the same decision-making skills that everybody in this thread has demonstrated.

If anybody wants to think the food is shit, go right ahead, I don't think people will argue that the majority of fast food isn't healthy at all. However throwing around words like "carcinogenic" and "toxins" shows a significant lack of understanding of the science behind this stuff.

I feel I need to be very clear here. I'm not saying McDonalds is good for you, I'm not saying that people in marketing are angels and I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with OP. Just that I don't think anybody here has presented a legitimate case for everybody to stop eating McDonalds.

[speedog]

Still waiting for the OP to jump back into this thread with more of his nuggets of wisdom.

[Type_S1]

Haha I eat at restaurants 2-3 meals a week easily. Boston Pizza, the keg, joeys, sometimes fast food. The rest of the time I eat clean food at home.

The way you guys are talking I should be dead by now!

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by speedog
Still waiting for the OP to jump back into this thread with more of his nuggets of wisdom.

I see what you did there.