Energy Efficiency Alberta

[Sugarphreak]

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[Mitsu3000gt]

Haha, if you actually do get the parts for free, people are just going to re-install old junk they have laying around so they get a bunch of free stuff. If you don't get the parts for free, participation is going to be next to zero. Seems like a massive failure either way to me. How does nobody in power think of these types of scenarios which will probably end up being the vast majority?

Fill out the form to register.
You’ll receive a call to schedule your installation, and a second call from the installer the day prior to their visit.
An installer will visit your home, and conduct a walkthrough to identify potential opportunities for energy-efficient upgrades at no charge.
The installer will upgrade your home to energy-efficient products, and show you how to use them. Most installations don’t take longer than an hour.
You’ll save money and conserve energy—immediately. And the products are yours to keep at no charge!

Might as well sign up and get a free thermostat, couple new HT power bars, and a bunch of LED bulbs

I find this almost unbelievable that anyone would even think this up believing it will have the desired outcome.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

What if I don't want new showerheads?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
What if I don't want new showerheads?

Reinstall the old ones in 2 minutes and keep the new ones as backups, or sell them on Kijiji like everyone else is going to do. Or pop out the water savers in the new ones. Too much trouble for some people I'm sure but I bet a lot of people will just be abusing this to the max, especially with the amount of people who hate the NDP.

[carson blocks]

Originally posted by dirtsniffer

So possibly around $100 worth of things we can claw back from the NDP.

They're not spending their own money on this, they're spending ours. Everyone who signs up for this program probably costs us $500 with installer fees and gov't overhead, program administration costs etc. to end up with $100 of free shit. That said, I just might sign up because my old house could use a new thermostat and some LED bulbs. I'll take the new showerheads too as I can usually remove the restrictors in just a few minutes and get a decent shower. I modded my current Costco 2.5gpm showerheads to just short of 5gpm.

[JordanEG6]

I would only do this if the temperature of the lights are the same as incandescent. My relatives typically buy the white/cool temp LEDs and I hate the light it produces.

[Nitro5]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Haha, if you actually do get the parts for free, people are just going to re-install old junk they have laying around so they get a bunch of free stuff. If you don't get the parts for free, participation is going to be next to zero. Seems like a massive failure either way to me. How does nobody in power think of these types of scenarios which will probably end up being the vast majority?



Might as well sign up and get a free thermostat, couple new HT power bars, and a bunch of LED bulbs

I find this almost unbelievable that anyone would even think this up believing it will have the desired outcome.

I think people are reading it wrong. The walkthrough and installation is no charge. I don't see any specific language stating the actual products themselves being installed are free.

I think the government is wasting millions to give a company a chance to sell you a light bulb that they will screw in for free (charge the government)

[lamp_shade_2000]

Originally posted by Nitro5


I think people are reading it wrong. The walkthrough and installation is no charge. I don't see any specific language stating the actual products themselves being installed are free.

I think the government is wasting millions to give a company a chance to sell you a light bulb that they will screw in for free (charge the government)

Fill out the form to register.
You’ll receive a call to schedule your installation, and a second call from the installer the day prior to their visit.
An installer will visit your home, and conduct a walkthrough to identify potential opportunities for energy-efficient upgrades at no charge.
The installer will upgrade your home to energy-efficient products, and show you how to use them. Most installations don’t take longer than an hour.
You’ll save money and conserve energy—immediately. And the products are yours to keep at no charge!

[kenny]

Originally posted by Nitro5


I think people are reading it wrong. The walkthrough and installation is no charge. I don't see any specific language stating the actual products themselves being installed are free.

I think the government is wasting millions to give a company a chance to sell you a light bulb that they will screw in for free (charge the government)

"the products are yours to keep at no charge!"
"Getting your no-charge, energy-efficient products is easy"
"And the products are yours to keep at no charge!"

It can't be more clear than that. The audit, installation and products are all included at no cost. They do take the old stuff away though so they aren't just dropping new stuff off for you to sell.

[lilmira]

Eligible refrigerators
Eligible clothes washers
High-efficiency windows
Tankless water heaters
Thermal insulation
ENERGY STAR® LED light bulbs
Load-sensing power bars
Heavy duty timers
Smart thermostats
Hot water saving products:
Showerheads
Faucet aerators
ShowerStarts©

There's no way that they are paying for new fridge, washing machine, new windows, water heater and insulation. This whole thing is written by a 10yo.

oops, jumped to conclusion with this one. These are for incentive.

[Feruk]

To all you trying to profit from this: Why would anyone buy the stuff the government gave you on Kijiji when they can just get it free from the government themselves?

[suntan]

Profit? I'm just hoarding for the zombie apocalypse.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Nitro5


I think people are reading it wrong. The walkthrough and installation is no charge. I don't see any specific language stating the actual products themselves being installed are free.

I think the government is wasting millions to give a company a chance to sell you a light bulb that they will screw in for free (charge the government)

It clearly states the products you receive are yours to keep, free of charge:

Fill out the form to register.
You’ll receive a call to schedule your installation, and a second call from the installer the day prior to their visit.
An installer will visit your home, and conduct a walkthrough to identify potential opportunities for energy-efficient upgrades at no charge.
The installer will upgrade your home to energy-efficient products, and show you how to use them. Most installations don’t take longer than an hour.
You’ll save money and conserve energy—immediately. And the products are yours to keep at no charge!

So unless I am grossly misinterpreting that somehow, it sounds like everything is free.

[Nitro5]

Fuck I'm missed that. Nvm

[rx7boi]

Breaking News: 9/10 people in this thread cannot/do not read haha.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Feruk
To all you trying to profit from this: Why would anyone buy the stuff the government gave you on Kijiji when they can just get it free from the government themselves?

ebay isn't province wide. USD is strong. So many opportunities! haha

[Mitsu3000gt]

16 Pack of 60W bulbs = $13 or so.

Costco Pack of 3 LED bulbs = $20 or so.

Even people with existing LED setups are probably going to go out, buy a couple boxes of crappy bulbs and get a second set of LED's for free in their house probably worth at least couple hundred $. If they do track lighting, chandeliers, and halogens with LED's too, that can get to be some pretty big money. This is going to get abused like crazy. Getting free power bars will be the easiest, you simply plug your stuff into the wall for a day haha.

[dj_rice]

Signed up. Nothing to lose

[Sugarphreak]

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[Swank]

Originally posted by rx7boi


You can still get incandescents? I thought those weren't available for purchase as of several years ago?

I believe only 60 watts and lower are still available for incandescents in stores.

I see no mention of replacing bulbs with the same lumen output. Last I checked 100w equivalent LED bulbs were still damn pricey and too large for many closed fixtures despite being the same bulb code (i.e. A19).