Calgary mayoral election October 16, 2017

[kertejud2]

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3 councilors voted against. Are they also uninformed? I would assume they would be among the most informed on the project.

Chabot and Sutherland voted against it for cost (and "scope creep"). Magliocca voted against it because he wanted it to go North.

Phase 1 stops 8 stations short North, and 5 going South, stopping at Sheppard which is 126 ave, not 162nd.

Clumsy fingers.

Taking another look even if this is the most scrutinized project in history of Calgary will make the money disappear and cancel this project somehow??

It will make the need to re-evaluate the funding happen again, because it is a different project scope.

They have the funding to do the most expensive part right now, to avoid the problems in the future. Basically build it right now to avoid problems in the future. Or in other words, don't let 7th Ave happen again. Because that's effectively what people are doing when they say re-evaluate and look at extending it elsewhere to use the money available. It's the same arguments that caused the tunnel for the first LRT to be scrapped in favor of the much cheaper at-grade option, and you could just do it later. Here we are many, many extensions later, but no closer to solving that problem.

It will be much easier to budget in or get funding for station extensions south and north hundreds of millions at a time than it will be to get over a billion to do a tunnel again.

Last I heard the construction was slated to start in 2020.

Yes.

[kertejud2]

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My concern for that is, why North side got shafted with only one station standing, where south side got more station allocated. Clearly, there is more ridership coming from North side heading to DT, than the other way around.

Because the maintenance facility for the Green Line was chosen to be at Shepard. And it was easier to go SE because up until they decided to go with a tunnel to 16th Ave there was never any actual plan for how to send the train North, only the route (and that was only after scrapping the stupid Nose Creek route and going up Centre St.).

Also because the councilor for the North didn't fight for it, while the councilor in the SE fought really hard for it.

How Sean Chu lost the Green Line

If Bill can deliver a promise that re-evaluating the green line and change the current design (create more ridership coming from North), it'll be a shoo-in for this election for him.

Then he'd be losing votes from people in the SE and creating an 'enemy' on council with Keating.

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[Xtrema]

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He's literally running on "I'm not Nenshi" and is avoiding answering anything or giving any real plans.

He literally used this incumbent know more than I do so I can't really answer this until you get me in there.

But lower taxes!

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If Bill can deliver a promise that re-evaluating the green line and change the current design (create more ridership coming from North), it'll be a shoo-in for this election for him.

I can't believe this is actually getting traction. This whole re-evaluate thing will just cost more time and jobs and start the whole provincial and federal red tape.

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3 councilors voted against. Are they also uninformed? I would assume they would be among the most informed on the project. Phase 1 stops 8 stations short North, and 5 going South, stopping at Sheppard which is 126 ave, not 162nd. Taking another look even if this is the most scrutinized project in history of Calgary will make the money disappear and cancel this project somehow?? Last I heard the construction was slated to start in 2020.

They are not uninformed. They just got shafted by this plan and hurt their re-election this year.

[rage2]

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Obviously you have access to who voted for which candidate in the poll, just curious if there's any brand new accounts that voted?

I don't have access to the data. At least, I don't know how to access it? Damn forum upgrade haha.

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My concern for that is, why North side got shafted with only one station standing, where south side got more station allocated. Clearly, there is more ridership coming from North side heading to DT, than the other way around.

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How is it clear that more people travel in from the north? Do you have any stats? I think the split was, half the budget can go south of downtown, half can go north of downtown. Seems to make sense. Too bad that the half of the budget to build the north has, just makes a tunnel

Geographically speaking, the south is twice the size of the north. I had some population split numbers years ago, can't seem to find it, but I had it pegged at something like 38% north and 62% south. So it makes sense that it's favoring the south first.

We should've never built WestLRT, that money should've been invested in the green line. The usage stats for WestLRT is depressing. Thanks Bronco haha.

[Xtrema]

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We should've never built WestLRT, that money should've been invested in the green line. The usage stats for WestLRT is depressing. Thanks Bronco haha.

But dude had to cash in from insider info.

[dj_patm]

Whats this talk on Reddit about Bill Smiths assets being repo'd and his failed businesses? Has that been verified?

It's depressing that future elections at all levels will basically be driven by what idiots see on FB without fact checking. Stupid people with social media will lead to the failure of democracy.

[rage2]

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Whats this talk on Reddit about Bill Smiths assets being repo'd and his failed businesses? Has that been verified?

It's depressing that future elections at all levels will basically be driven by what idiots see on FB without fact checking. Stupid people with social media will lead to the failure of democracy.

I guess you can spin it that way if you just read the headlines? Or if you're a Nenshi supporter trying to drum up support haha.

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/402...14#post4686614

[dj_patm]

The reddit post rebukes his claims, that's what I'm getting at. I hate how much speculation there is in this election.

As for being a Nenshi supporter, I don't care if Nenshi wins or loses, that's fine. But voting for a candidate that claims transparency but refuses to be up front or honest about literally anything is about as stupid as it gets, which judging by my FB feed is exactly what the conservative "libtard, snowflake" spouting morons will do.

[88CRX]

Advanced voting wait time this past weekend.... 5 minutes

Election day voting 4 years ago... 2 hours +

People! Believe the advanced voting is still on today, if you can make it I'd highly recommend it.
http://www.calgary.ca/election/Pages...-stations.aspx

[rage2]

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The reddit post rebukes his claims, that's what I'm getting at. I hate how much speculation there is in this election.

As for being a Nenshi supporter, I don't care if Nenshi wins or loses, that's fine. But voting for a candidate that claims transparency but refuses to be up front or honest about literally anything is about as stupid as it gets, which judging by my FB feed is exactly what the conservative "libtard, snowflake" spouting morons will do.

I wish I could read reddit to see what they're talking about, but I don't have the time nor patience to sift through anything in /r/Calgary especially when it comes to local politics. It's like anyone not a fan of Nenshi is a racist uneducated idiot. Kinda funny the parallels it draws with the US election last year.

[tonytiger55]

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I wish I could read reddit to see what they're talking about, but I don't have the time nor patience to sift through anything in /r/Calgary especially when it comes to local politics. It's like anyone not a fan of Nenshi is a racist uneducated idiot. Kinda funny the parallels it draws with the US election last year.

A similar thing happened in the UK with Brexit.
When people in office are just not listening, making some really dumb decisions and just plain out refuse to take on board what the needs of the public are. People get fed up shift to the right. When they lose they go on and on about trying to figure out why they lost like its some sort of exotic rocket science.

[rage2]

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There was some on Twitter. By some, I mean less racial slurs than you'll here in one game of call of duty online.

Just like all of Nenshi's claims, completely exaggerated.

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http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...n-mayoral-race

yet in the video he appeals to the Pakistani community to "vote for diversity". Some will argue that's open to interpretation, but it's pretty clear to me he is basically saying vote for me because I am the only one that isn't white.

Stumbled on this gem from Nenshi.

[CompletelyNumb]

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Whats this talk on Reddit about Bill Smiths assets being repo'd and his failed businesses? Has that been verified?

Cliff notes from a source: he split his firm into a new company, new bank accounts, new office, etc. The loan repayment auto-debit wasn't updated to the new bank account, because he delegated the financials to an employee who forgot. The old office remained in the hands of his previous partner and employees, who were supposed to forward all mail and calls that slipped through the cracks. That apparently never happened. RBC tried to contact him at the old office. Collections tried the old office. Finally they got a judgement, bailiff went to the old office. Old office told them where to find the new office. When they came knocking, he wrote them a cheque for the full balance owing.

[Xtrema]

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Cliff notes from a source: he split his firm into a new company, new bank accounts, new office, etc. The loan repayment auto-debit wasn't updated to the new bank account, because he delegated the financials to an employee who forgot. The old office remained in the hands of his previous partner and employees, who were supposed to forward all mail and calls that slipped through the cracks. That apparently never happened. RBC tried to contact him at the old office. Collections tried the old office. Finally they got a judgement, bailiff went to the old office. Old office told them where to find the new office. When they came knocking, he wrote them a cheque for the full balance owing.

It not as big deal as it should be but just dirty tactics. Just like Smith is broadcasting Nenshi's Uber ride in Boston every 15mins on Global in his ad campaign.

[Tik-Tok]

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I wish I could read reddit to see what they're talking about, but I don't have the time nor patience to sift through anything in /r/Calgary especially when it comes to local politics. It's like anyone not a fan of Nenshi is a racist uneducated idiot. Kinda funny the parallels it draws with the US election last year.

Honestly, I see more people on there complaining about this, then people actually saying such things. And the ones complaining about it are the ones just getting downvoted, and just assume it's people downvoting because they aren't Nenshi fans, and not because they are just talking like complete assholes.

[rage2]

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Honestly, I see more people on there complaining about this, then people actually saying such things. And the ones complaining about it are the ones just getting downvoted, and just assume it's people downvoting because they aren't Nenshi fans, and not because they are just talking like complete assholes.

Maybe it's changed a bit? Who knows, it's the whole reason why I can't read anything Calgary related on reddit not being a Nenshi fan before it was cool not to be a Nenshi fan. Same goes on CP, just have to ignore all the politics talk, which was a little tough during the arena debate.

[Xtrema]

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4349741

Bill Smith sued for $2.2m in 2010.

Is someone just digging this shit up now?

[Tik-Tok]

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Is someone just digging this shit up now?

Probably information that's been sat on for awhile. Better for Nenshi and friends to release this kind of stuff in the days leading up to the election, rather than weeks/months before.

[speedog]

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Stumbled on this gem from Nenshi.

Nenshi just retweeted it, he was not the original tweeter. Tweeting, that word just sounds dumb.