Out of Season Winter Tires? Studs or not?

[killramos]

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Yup, soft snow or slush will definitely be challenging in a parking spot. I had that problem in the C63 as well. Studs won't help you much there either, you'll dig into ice, get some grip, only to hit that same snow/slush again and drop back into your newly created rut.

I currently have a mitigation routine in the ford every time I park it on the street after it has snowed. I back up 3-4 times to build a 20 foot or snow rut runway and the next day I hope to god I have enough momentum to pop the car out of the rut with a steering jerk and onto the roadway.

If someone parks too close in front of me I am taking the bus

True snows will help for sure.

[rage2]

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I currently have a mitigation routine in the ford every time I park it on the street after it has snowed. I back up 3-4 times to build a 20 foot or snow rut runway and the next day I hope to god I have enough momentum to pop the car out of the rut with a steering jerk and onto the roadway.

If someone parks too close in front of me I am taking the bus

True snows will help for sure.

AWD ftw. I got stuck in our last B200 FWD like that on true winters as well. Situations like this, AWD is king.

[max_boost]

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But the Pirelli Sottozero's are so fucking bad in snow and ice. Really felt more like an all season than a performance winter.

They were decent on the 911 turbo but then awd?

[The_Rural_Juror]

I have been running a set of Hakka 8 and a set of Hakka 9. Both amazing trip when you need it.

I wouldn't buy non-factory studded tires again. I couldn't find a missing stud on my Nokian's over a combined 4 seasons. Compared to a set of other tires that were studded locally brand new, which lost about 8 studs over 3 seasons. Wouldn't want to be driving behind anyone with loose studs.

And ya. Sottozeros are shit.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

I’d much rather drive the Sottozero 3s on my dads car than XI3 on their other car or my company car. XI3 are truly horrible in my opinion, barely any better than performance winters on snow but have zero feedback and horrible softeness on dry surfaces, and I’m finding they get excessively noisy as they wear.

Bring back the Hankook Icebear W300 I say.

[zhao]

Ice bears were one of the worst winter tires out there. They were actually rated as not suitable for winter, in Europe that is. 2nd worst winter I tested, and only second because firestone winterforce without studs had no ice grip, but in that shitty tires defense they technically were designed to need studs to have ice grip