Impark Loss Prevention Specialist

[KrisYYC]

The juvenile sense of entitlement is strong in this one.

[shakalaka]

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That was my thought as well, but how different would it be than a loss prevention guy at Home Depot detaining a shoplifter, if OP had not paid for parking in this instance? Can non-officers only detain someone if it is temporary until an actual police officer is present, rather than the shakedown they were giving the OP?

Yes, LPO's have an obligation to inform the police immediately if they detain someone. In fact this obligation is for everyone who performs a citizen's arrest as it is contained in the Code. Most LPO's even go as far as reading the Charter rights to the people they detain, however, when the police shows up they go through the Charter/Prosper warning anyway. Law's still somewhat out on the obligation of LPO's for reading the Charter rights/giving a Prosper warning as typically only the agents of the State (cops, peace officers etc) have a legal obligation to do that. It is a grey area for sure but as a general rule of thumb and to avoid any legal argument most LPO's will go over the rights just to be on the safe side and when the police arrives they do what they are always typically required to do. So they simply detain for a short period until an actual police officer can come and overtake the investigation.

[Lex350]

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Clearly if you had a valid pass, you wouldn't be getting tickets. If you did get tickets, and had a valid pass, you would be able to reverse those tickets.

I'd just pay the tickets and move on, but doing a charge back is some greasy shit. That's right up there with people "renting" stuff from Costco for their trailer park wedding and returning it the next day.

While I don't agree with OP's attitude about it all...what you said is sometimes false. I've had this happen to me. Go ahead, try to fight it. They are just as bad as fighting the Calgary parking authority when you get a ticket you shouldn't. At the end of the day the hassle just isn't worth it. That's what they are counting on.

[killramos]

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Moral justification aside, I do think it's sort of an interesting tactic by Impark to send their 'enforcers' to box people in such manner. If you owe someone money, that doesn't give them a right to forcibly confine (illegal) you. Sure they can sue you in civil court and they would have the right to do that. In this case though, since they said we can tow or you can pay, it may be somewhat different and perhaps it was a good idea for the OP to not call their bluff on tow because they probably would have. I mean, why would they not if there's enough arrears owing.

You are obviously more versed in this, but is parking a car in front of his on private property really forcible confinement?

He is obviously free to leave, it’s his car they are preventing from leaving.

[ickyflex]

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I have no idea where people get the idea that not paying for parking is acceptable.

If you don’t like Impark then don’t use them, doesn’t give you justification to rip them off. Amazing the ethical gymnastics people will go to to justify this stance though. “They mistakenly gave me a ticket when I was a monthly so now I steal from them because fuck the police”. I had impark accidentally give me tickets when I was monthly as well, even when it was my fault not displaying my permit, except I did the adult thing and called in to have the tickets cancelled which they were happy to do after checking my information.

By that logic I should stop paying my property taxes because I think Nenshi is an idiot.

OP deserves them boxing him in and towing his car.

4 tickets for having a legitimate pass is not accidental, when they say permit not showing when it clearly is and then not having photo proof of no display of permit. Agree or disagree it doesn't really matter to me, but to me that is a scam. We all know impark doesn't have anything for customer service that honor any sort of normal business conduct. Any normal circumstances I have zero issues with being at fault and paying.

It is comical everyone here talks as though they all have proper moral ethics in every bit of things that happen on their daily lives. I didn't bitch and complain, I simply asked if they are allowed to take the actions taken. I pay any ticket I get if warranted. If I had a city ticket i'd pay it too in this scenario, was only asking about the approach taken

[Gestalt]

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That was my thought as well, but how different would it be than a loss prevention guy at Home Depot detaining a shoplifter, if OP had not paid for parking in this instance? Can non-officers only detain someone if it is temporary until an actual police officer is present, rather than the shakedown they were giving the OP?

they cant detain you unless they witness an indictable ofense

[Tik-Tok]

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Moral justification aside, I do think it's sort of an interesting tactic by Impark to send their 'enforcers' to box people in such manner.

They weren't confining him though, just his car.

[blitz]

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While I don't agree with OP's attitude about it all...what you said is sometimes false. I've had this happen to me. Go ahead, try to fight it. They are just as bad as fighting the Calgary parking authority when you get a ticket you shouldn't. At the end of the day the hassle just isn't worth it. That's what they are counting on.

This is where Impark is shooting themselves in the foot in a long term sense. They're impossible to deal with when they make a mistake and that causes people to have a "go fuck yourself Impark" mindset.

[ickyflex]

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what was the reason for the chargeback?

Explained the situation, they said it is a common reason people call and proceeded. Simple as that.

[msommers]

Dealing with these parking companies is impossible, even if you pay and have proof. We got another notice in the mail to pay and the fine is now over $100. GF is pissed and feeling on edge about it. My experience around Christmas:

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/406...highlight=scam

OP also said he has almost 400 parking tickets. This is an extreme case on both ends it seems...

Still total bullshit they just give people tickets even if being lawful about it.

[ickyflex]

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Dealing with these parking companies is impossible, even if you pay and have proof. We got another notice in the mail to pay and the fine is now over $100. GF is pissed and feeling on edge about it. My experience around Christmas:

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/406...highlight=scam

OP also said he has almost 400 parking tickets. This is an extreme case on both ends it seems...

Still total bullshit they just give people tickets even if being lawful about it.

that was a misleading total in reference to coworkers whom all don't pay for impark either. Let's be honest. Half of downtown parks in impark illegally. Moved close enough after new car to not need to drive in often. This car was a clean record and had a parking permit because I was driving in regularly

[benyl]

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Moral justification aside, I do think it's sort of an interesting tactic by Impark to send their 'enforcers' to box people in such manner. If you owe someone money, that doesn't give them a right to forcibly confine (illegal) you.

They aren't doing shit to you. You can walk away.

You are on private property, they can move and put things anywhere they want.

How is it different then having a barrier arm that prevents you from leaving if you haven't paid?

[Xtrema]

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Moral justification aside, I do think it's sort of an interesting tactic by Impark to send their 'enforcers' to box people in such manner. If you owe someone money, that doesn't give them a right to forcibly confine (illegal) you. Sure they can sue you in civil court and they would have the right to do that. In this case though, since they said we can tow or you can pay, it may be somewhat different and perhaps it was a good idea for the OP to not call their bluff on tow because they probably would have. I mean, why would they not if there's enough arrears owing.

I'm sure they only do it to people with plates that has a lot of hits.

I forget to put my pass up 1/2 the time and officially I have 2 unpaid tickets against my plate and loss prevention never pull this stunt on me.

[Super_Geo]

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This car was a clean record and had a parking permit because I was driving in regularly

This was your first parking ticket on the car? And they boxed you in and were going to tow you for it? Doesn't sound right...

[shakalaka]

Yea if he’d be free to leave it wouldn’t really be forcible confinement. From reading the original post I read the ‘would not let me leave’ as literally the OP was not allowed to leave and not just the vehicle, but makes sense. If they are withholding the vehicle alone, I guess it’s somewhat similar to a landlord not letting the tenant access to their belongings due to unpaid rent or damage. It’s civil court then for sure but they can very easily just rightfully tow the vehicle so the question of leaving the vehicle boxed in at the parking spot itself doesn’t really become much of an issue.

[M.alex]

As somebody who wastes $500/mth to Impark for a parking spot I approve of this loss prevention strategy.

[Gestalt]

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Yea if he’d be free to leave it wouldn’t really be forcible confinement. From reading the original post I read the ‘would not let me leave’ as literally the OP was not allowed to leave and not just the vehicle, but makes sense. If they are withholding the vehicle alone, I guess it’s somewhat similar to a landlord not letting the tenant access to their belongings due to unpaid rent or damage. It’s civil court then for sure but they can very easily just rightfully tow the vehicle so the question of leaving the vehicle boxed in at the parking spot itself doesn’t really become much of an issue.

Landlor cant gold your posessions without court order. Police would let you in and charge the landlord

[benyl]

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Landlor cant gold your posessions without court order. Police would let you in and charge the landlord

How about a mechanic who doesn't release a vehicle because the owner hasn't paid his bill?

[Gestalt]

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How about a mechanic who doesn't release a vehicle because the owner hasn't paid his bill?

Mechanics lean. No such thing in landlord tenant. Trust me i tried to keep a tv, cops let him in to take it with a warming.

[Rocket1k78]

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It is comical everyone here talks as though they all have proper moral ethics in every bit of things that happen on their daily lives

What did you expect lol you say you have multiple unpaid tickets and after you're forced to pay them you do a charge back. Im not shitting on you either, im just not sure what reaction you were expecting