Wtf? So youre reintroducing it... And not rebating. Nice. Thanks ucp.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ct-in-january/
Wtf? So youre reintroducing it... And not rebating. Nice. Thanks ucp.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ct-in-january/
Maybe he gave his head a shake and realized if he cancels the provincial the money's just gonna go to ottawa anyway.
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Did anyone really believe him when he said otherwise?
Did anyone read the article? This is for industrial emitters, not for consumers such as us
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There's been a carbon tax on large emitters since 2007...
did you directly get a bill for carbon tax? guaranteed large emitters are the same guys that own the gas pumps.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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And send you gas and electric bills.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You know, I've been meaning to type this out for a while, and here seems as good a place as any.
Carbon taxes are only effective at thier stated goals of reducing atmospheric CO2 if three conditions are met. 1) they must be directly on energy CONSUMERS, 2) there are no exceptions or rebates and 3) they are high enough to be painful to most people.
Corporate capital, and thus industrial emissions and activity can be moved from jurisdictions with carbon taxes to those without. We've seen this to be true. Similarly, rich people have many options for where they live, travel and consume energy.
However, it's middle class and below individuals who would truly change thier lifestyles of they had a strong economic incentive to do so. They wouldn't run out and buy Tesla, but what they would do is work on energy efficiency like thier lives depended on it, because they would.
It's politically unpalatable, and bad for the economy, but if you want to save the planet with carbon tax, you'd better be ready to directly harm some voters.
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Arguably #3 already exists, especially here... carbon tax is just the salt in the wounds of those already suffering from a struggling energy industry.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
and #1, of course it gets put on us, no corporation is going to eat that cost.
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Totally disagree on #3 already existing. I don't know a single person who drives less in Alberta because of the cost of fuel. We've sent capital and industrial activity away but not reduced actual carbon emissions. $100/ton minimum and I'm not even kidding.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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ever heard of people unemployed? pretty sure they're causing less emissions, and definitely feeling the salt in the wounds.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Yep and living in vans by river saves on house heating costs and the suicide rate keeps climbing - so that just takes a few more kg of co2 from the air...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And now the relocation to find work is beginning anew so that'll export those emissions elsewhere...
Feels like a trudeau plan
You know, if the federal government would just nationalize the energy industry they could just force it to all go green and nobody would have to worry about it and we wouldn't have to pay any "climate" taxes at all.
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I say stupid shit all the time.
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Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
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Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.^^ Fact CheckedOriginally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I say stupid shit all the time.
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They did say they were going to raise the rate for large emitters. So...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
hahahah did you check the budget at all? he has a 2bn deficit more than the NDP had... he's Fiscal Bullshit.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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