Probably just Lexus? 10% Increase wont get them to German price points.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Probably just Lexus? 10% Increase wont get them to German price points.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Over $50k USD for the Type S puts them right in the wheelhouse of vehicles like the M340i.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Oh, duh. For some reason I was thinking CAD.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Typically I’d agree, but in this case it’s a hell of a lot more car than the base 2020.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Powerwise, that alone is worth the $4500 (6k?) cdn.
The new base 4cyl is like buying a base V6 2020 model. That delta is now much smaller. It claims here:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/acura/tlx
So arguably ~$1300 more?The 2020 Acura TLX has the lowest starting MSRP among luxury midsize cars, coming in at $33,000. You can replace the standard four-cylinder engine with a V6 for $3,200, and you can add all-wheel drive to models with the V6 for $2,000. Acura offers three upgrade packages that each add a few thousand dollars to the price. A fully loaded TLX will set you back nearly $50,000.
I’m just trying to be a Honda fanboy here. Lol.
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As a former Honda guy, I want to like them too. But for the 2021 model, $38525USD at today’s exchange rate is just North of $50k CAD. That’s assuming Canada doesn’t get hit with a premium to the exchange rate. $50k+ for a 272HP 4 cylinder FWD just doesn’t feel like good value to me.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe Canada won't get the FWD? Acura website lists SH-AWD, Tech, A-Spec and Platnium. SH-AWD starts at $43,990 which doesn't seem terrible. I like the idea of this car but still a yikes from me on the interior.
https://www.acura.ca/future-vehicles/tlx2021
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Not seeing too many 340's anywhere close to 50k
The big thing about Germans is whatever you see on their site, is never remotely close to what the dealers are offering at.. from my research anyhow.
Yes and you won't see any Type S's close to $50k in Canada. US pricing is being referenced here for both. I agree with BMW as the price on their site isn't close to what you can get them for as I have paid significantly less on both of my BMW purchases.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I never thought to check the Acura.ca website, I didn’t think pricing would be up yet. Looks like these are better value in Canada.
I checked acura.com and the starting price there is listed as $37,500 which is less than the $38525 on the previous link I posted (maybe the MA website has dated info? or maybe it includes freight?)
For comparable base model AWD in US vs Canada, it would be $39,500USD vs $43,990CAD which is an effective currency conversion of 0.90. That’s actually pretty decent.
Woohoo Honda. Off topic but the limited civic type R is 45k USD. Should ring in around $49,999 here.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Sounds pretty good from the first drives of the 2.0 shawd
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...-drive-review/
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/24/...x-first-drive/
Who else other than diehard Honda fanboys would buy this over a Genesis G70?
$54,600 here in Canada. $10K is too much for primarily lighter wheels and yellow paint, IMHO, but I get the appeal to collectors. I would have liked to see it get a power bump for that kind of money.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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The Genesis has pretty brutal residuals and resale, that could be enough for some people. I don't think the 3.0T version is out yet for reviews either. 2.0T reviews have so far been positive.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not really my cup of tea either, but I think a performance car with "Japanese reliability" will sell well.
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G70 is more a ILX size.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Valid comparison would be G80.
You should watch The Straightpipes video review where they demonstrate how awful the new 10 speed transmission is. The delayed shifting (we are talking seconds not milliseconds) would be a deal breaker in an entry level compact car and is totally unacceptable at this price point. When will Honda ever offer a good automatic transmission?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Their 8 speed DCT is pretty decent. Too bad they don't put it in anything worth buying.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ok. After watching reviews, this is the weirdest sized car ever.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Longer and wider and A6 and E class.
Has trunk and rear leg room of compact class. Has same rear leg room and somehow even less head room then G70.
Pretty porky at 3920lbs for a 4 banger. Whopping 500lb heavier than an A4.
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Yeah that doesn't bode well for the A-Spec which will likely weigh as much as a mid-size SUV.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Configurator is up for the Type S.
$60,000k CAD on the nose MSRP + $500 for paint that's not grey (lol).
Initial residual and rates (4.99) are horrible - It actually makes an S4 or M340 cheaper if leasing. Even then, S4 is 60.6k & an M340i is $64k which are arguable much better options for essentially the same price...
Add in the fact this thing is heavy & huge with a tiny interior and no cargo space, I don't know who'll be buying these outside of the hardest of Honda fanbois... I mean, I'm in for another cheap lease if it comes my way as the regular model 270hp turbo4 with SH-AWD is decent enough, but not gonna be banging on the door for one.
Last edited by Pauly Boy; 06-15-2021 at 10:28 AM.
Originally posted by killramos
It's a Chrysler, it won't last long enough to depreciate.
I think the value prop for this is when it's 3 years old. Zero chance I'd want an S4 or 340i off warranty, but I'd have no worries about this.