Who are you voting for: 2023 AB Provincial Election

[2Legit2Quit]

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Giving you a much more logical option...
That said, left leaning individuals tend to have a very poor grasp of logic or reality.

Checks out.

lol get fucked clown, you don't know me or know shit by the sounds of it. Continue to take the wins in your mind.

I've gone down this road in the other election thread and it's a waste of time going into it on here with folks who are hard team blue supporters and always goes the same route, personal attacks and making fun of those who don't share the same mindset.

[whoreads]

If Druh Farrell wins I'll eat my hat.

[suntan]

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lol get fucked clown, you don't know me or know shit by the sounds of it. Continue to take the wins in your mind.

I've gone down this road in the other election thread and it's a waste of time going into it on here with folks who are hard team blue supporters and always goes the same route, personal attacks and making fun of those who don't share the same mindset.

"It was just coincidence that the economy sucked while the NDP were in power last time"

[msommers]

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A more interesting poll would be "are you voting "FOR" someone or AGAINST the alternative?

Have Canadians ever been in a position to vote FOR someone?

As with all politicians, who sucks less gets the vote.

[ExtraSlow]

Nenshi V1.0 got a lot of FOR votes I think.

Actually Trudeau V1.0 probably did as well.

I think the BQ/PQ sometimes get significant FOR votes as well.

[vengie]

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lol get fucked clown, you don't know me or know shit by the sounds of it. Continue to take the wins in your mind.

I've gone down this road in the other election thread and it's a waste of time going into it on here with folks who are hard team blue supporters and always goes the same route, personal attacks and making fun of those who don't share the same mindset.

Lol, wow you're soft.
Take a quick look at historical trends and you can see very clearly that socialism doesn't work.

You can't spend your way to prosperity and hope someone else covers the cost.
Basic economics bro.

[sexualbanana]

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The NDP have never been told about the Laffer Curve. Probably because none of them have taken even a basic econ course.

Terrible too to raise corporate tax during an inflationary period.

Or it might be that a lot of people think the Laffer Curve is bullshit because it's never been shown to work beyond getting people elected (because everybody loves a tax cut).

[suntan]

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Or it might be that a lot of people think the Laffer Curve is bullshit because it's never been shown to work beyond getting people elected (because everybody loves a tax cut).

There actually is empirical evidence. At around 70% total taxation people and companies will actively flee.

Did you take any econ courses?

Do you even understand how or what corporate taxes are?

How dare people keep the money they earn. That's just wrong.

[dirtsniffer]

If half of beyond is NDP it's basically in the bag for them

[phreezee]

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Eh she/they are pretty much promising everything under the sun right now so hard to say I agree with everything, it's pretty much a shit sandwich situation, which shit sandwich do I want a bite out of? Smith shit sandwich or Notley shit sandwich?

I'm rolling with the Notley shit sandwich.

There's never ending fear mongering going on from both sides, more so from the UCP side, at this point I'd rather give them another shake than roll with 4 years of Wild Rose stupidity.

I fucking despise Smith and wasn't going to vote. I've decided to vote just to counteract this type of mentality.

NDP have destroyed every province they've ever been in power.

[Yolobimmer]

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They’re actually cutting the small business tax to 0 which helps out a lot of local places, contractors, trades, etc

Only the larger corporate rate (>500k profit) is going up. Given that huge companies have no issue finding funds for millions of buy backs your point seems moot. Plus we’ll still have the lowest corporate tax rate in Canada even with the increase from 8% to 11%

This!

Corporate taxes are purely on profits and after very generous relocations.. Its not a make or break thing.

Small business tax is on people, and IS a make or break thing. 100% double taxation.

NDP stayed in school. UCP dropped out in grade 9.

[mr2mike]

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[Yolobimmer]

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Toma Algorithm has flagged this thread for him.

Vengie=Roma?

Makes sense, he has the most nonsense posts here.

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If half of beyond is NDP it's basically in the bag for them

Nah, all the UCP supporters have ALT accounts, so the numbers wont stay close for long.

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You can't spend your way to prosperity and hope someone else covers the cost.
Basic economics bro.

Look at the dumbest guy here along with Suntan trying to teach their feable understanding of grade 9 marth. Lol

[sexualbanana]

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There actually is empirical evidence. At around 70% total taxation people and companies will actively flee.

Did you take any econ courses?

Do you even understand how or what corporate taxes are?

How dare people keep the money they earn. That's just wrong.

Did you? Or do you just look up terms and hope no one knows what you're saying?

Reagan's ERTA in 1981 didn't raise tax revenue and, despite accompanying expenditure cuts, still managed to grow the deficit.

Trickle-down only works if it assumes that the business will employ more people and that goal isn't maximizing profit margins and shareholder wealth - which usually means optimizing operational efficiency in the form of more automation and overhead reduction (re: people costs).

You're right that at some point, companies will move to somewhere with lower rates. That's a logical move and it's entirely their perogative. But where else would they go? At 11%, the corporate tax rate is still lower than anywhere else in Canada and, last I checked, oil & gas deposits are still here in Alberta. The Province has been under this assumption that people will go elsewhere, that's why royalties have historically been lower than they should be, that's why provincial taxes have historically been lower than they should be. In all fairness, it has had led to some very prosperous times, but it's also led to some embarrassing social gaps. There's no reason why a province with our resources should have to make cuts to essential services and healthcare.

[Brent.ff]

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"It was just coincidence that the economy sucked while the NDP were in power last time"

Lol ya cause the NDP were really at fault for oil price, just like the UCP lucked into a war across the world that boosted revenue.

[Yolobimmer]

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Lol ya cause the NDP were really at fault for oil price, just like the UCP lucked into a war across the world that boosted revenue.

Obviously. NDP = incompetence. UCP = mad genius skills.

[The Cosworth]

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If half of beyond is NDP it's basically in the bag for them

My thoughts exactly, I can't believe it isn't all blue minus 3 NDP votes.

[Xtrema]

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If half of beyond is NDP it's basically in the bag for them

Still think it'll be really close. Need a lot of red tories to switch over to NDP for them to win.

We will know next week when early vote opens. I think seniors will decide this one and they will probably go early.

Smith's line about paying for doctor visit is doing great damages to UCP, regardless what she's saying afterward.

[killramos]

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My thoughts exactly, I can't believe it isn't all blue minus 3 NDP votes.

I think you would be surprised how few people actually vote lol

[suntan]

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Did you? Or do you just look up terms and hope no one knows what you're saying?

Reagan's ERTA in 1981 didn't raise tax revenue and, despite accompanying expenditure cuts, still managed to grow the deficit.

Trickle-down only works if it assumes that the business will employ more people and that goal isn't maximizing profit margins and shareholder wealth - which usually means optimizing operational efficiency in the form of more automation and overhead reduction (re: people costs).

You're right that at some point, companies will move to somewhere with lower rates. That's a logical move and it's entirely their perogative. But where else would they go? At 11%, the corporate tax rate is still lower than anywhere else in Canada and, last I checked, oil & gas deposits are still here in Alberta. The Province has been under this assumption that people will go elsewhere, that's why royalties have historically been lower than they should be, that's why provincial taxes have historically been lower than they should be. In all fairness, it has had led to some very prosperous times, but it's also led to some embarrassing social gaps. There's no reason why a province with our resources should have to make cuts to essential services and healthcare.

Ah the classic reddit graph. Surely it wasn't the large reduction in inflation that finally spurred growth.

"Embarrasing social gaps???"

Vancouver isn't a giant social gap?

The whole fucking province of Ontario isn't a giant social gap?

What the fuck are you saying?

Do you know what governments do with extra revenue? Do you think it goes to poor people? Hiliarious.