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    Have a solar powered pump that moves water that moves a watermill.

    Fucking perpetual motion machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Yeah the deal with these is its not about the costs of unit #1, you have to build the same unit dozens of times and get good at it.

    Unit #1 will be like all big projects, all overruns.

    Unless they try to make each one unique for each location, then the whole concept is doomed.
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    Never liked anything nuclear. Its like the Bugatti of energy. Some would say worth it at time of purchase, but the second that you have a problem and need a highly convoluted proprietary part to keep it running you will be paying through the nose for it *IF* you can get the part to keep it running.

    Besides the fact that the USA or France can ban sale of said part at a snap of a finger. Oh, you support/not support the Ukraine war or Trans, or warm beer? No nuclear plant repair parts for you! Its even worse than European direct dependancy on Putins natgas.

    Some say NASA failed because of too many interdependancies, but I would argue that the modern cellphone has more interdependancies and its just fine. However, I do believe that a modern nuclear plant has too many interdependancies. For something as important as energy generation it doesn't get simpler than moving falling water or coated silicon under glass.

    Nuclear of course, the circle jerk that is NASA, in term of needing "specialists" and "proprietary $10,000 toilet seats" to keep it running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    SMR nukes are the answer. Will be interesting to see how inexpensive they get when building batches of 4, 8 12 of identical units in a controlled factory setting. Plop one down beside every SAGD steam plant, and one near every city, and you have a really nice baseload power source.
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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...smrs-1.6971701

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    lol Cenovus is such a meme of a company

    I fucking hate this corporate rent seeking
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    Cenovus is a utility basically. So this behaviour fits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Cenovus is a utility basically. So this behaviour fits.
    they earn the returns of a utility, with the business risk of an intermediate.
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    $7M invested to study SMRs in Alberta? The money will be gone after one lunch meeting with some lackey (or AI) used to regurgitate a report for the billing dept.

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    I hope with fossil fuels going away by 2030 we don't lose oilfield graft stickers. Perhaps a new breed will pick up the slack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riander5 View Post
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    Dive a bit deeper than some random article into the data and you'll see hydro is our current best bet in terms of being 'green' (Look at BC, MB, and QC)

    https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-an...es-canada.html

    Not everyone has access to easy hydro, which is where Nuclear could play a big role. But after seeing how things went in GA I'm not sure people are going to be lining up to fund these things.

    Not saying the LCA of Carbon Intensity of various energy sources is perfect, but it certainly is rigorous.
    If Quebec had the oil reserves of Alberta, it would be a non issue. Drill and fill yer pockets. Plus they'd be their own independent country.

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    People actually watched a video that coupe posted after the Mortgage TikTok ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent.ff View Post
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    People actually watched a video that coupe posted after the Mortgage TikTok ?
    Is it June where you are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riander5 View Post
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    Dive a bit deeper than some random article into the data and you'll see hydro is our current best bet in terms of being 'green' (Look at BC, MB, and QC)

    https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-an...es-canada.html

    Not everyone has access to easy hydro, which is where Nuclear could play a big role. But after seeing how things went in GA I'm not sure people are going to be lining up to fund these things.

    Not saying the LCA of Carbon Intensity of various energy sources is perfect, but it certainly is rigorous.
    AB does have about ~5GW of hydro potential we really should be working towards utilizing. That'd be a bit under half our total usage but still substantial chunk switched over to cheaper / greener power.

    Sometimes I do wonder if AB is doubling down on natural gas because it's a self-profiting model. Keep the demand up for local natural gas, keeps prices higher, keeps the royalties higher.

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    Im not convinced its possible to build a hydro plant of scale in NA anymore.

    Basically all of the existing stuff is grandfathered in and probably would not be approved today.

    People these days are much more interested in rainbows and pixie dust.
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    New hydro would never be approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    AB does have about ~5GW of hydro potential we really should be working towards utilizing. That'd be a bit under half our total usage but still substantial chunk switched over to cheaper / greener power.

    Sometimes I do wonder if AB is doubling down on natural gas because it's a self-profiting model. Keep the demand up for local natural gas, keeps prices higher, keeps the royalties higher.
    Bill 15 say hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrema View Post
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    bill 15 say hi.
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    Bill C-15

    Bill C-15 provides a framework for this process to occur over time, through ongoing consultation and cooperation with Indigenous peoples. The Bill requires the development of an action plan and measures to ensure existing federal laws are consistent with the UN Declaration.



    May got the number wrong, whichever one that give natives veto power on any resource projects thru "consultation".

    Didn't the native/reserves torpedoed the last nuclear power attempt for oilsands?

    How's SMR any different? They will just scream how it poison the land until you can buy enough of them off.
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    Did the Natives kill Site-C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Did the Natives kill Site-C?
    It basically a case of an unstoppable force (leftist government agenda) versus an immovable object (natives)
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