Orlando shooting happening now!

[yeahyeah]

8 people reported as shot, possibly 2 dead. Not a good week for the USA.

www.cnn.com

[mowglee]

Wow in an office building too. That can't be good

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Crazy

[Legless_Marine2]

Originally posted by yeahyeah
8 people reported as shot, possibly 2 dead. Not a good week for the USA.

www.cnn.com

Wow. How could this happen in a highly militarized society where everyone is either watching violent television, playing violent FPS games, or employed by a weapons manufacturer?

Once would expect this sort of thing to happen in Tibet, or Switzerland.

[JordanLotoski]

What is with the USA. Last night a guy at a millitary base opened fire, killing 12, an 8 month old baby was found alive locked in a chest under her babysitters bed. now this.

We should have a thread called. UNITED STATES DAILY MURDER UPDATE TREAD.

[Xtrema]

former employee + no job + ran out of EI?

[syeve]

Originally posted by MIWYFSHOT
What is with the USA. Last night a guy at a millitary base opened fire, killing 12, an 8 month old baby was found alive locked in a chest under her babysitters bed. now this.

We should have a thread called. UNITED STATES DAILY MURDER UPDATE TREAD.

Looked it up, ~45 murders/day in the states. That's crazy.

[Redlyne_mr2]

And still they refuse to believe they have an issue with their gun laws.

[BigMass]

Originally posted by MIWYFSHOT
What is with the USA. Last night a guy at a millitary base opened fire, killing 12, an 8 month old baby was found alive locked in a chest under her babysitters bed. now this.

We should have a thread called. UNITED STATES DAILY MURDER UPDATE TREAD.

higher population, lower standard of living, higher poverty, undereducated. All that really stems from the first reason, high population. Put 300 million people in Canada and we’d have the same problems

[jjmac]

Looks like they caught the suspect

Apparently 1 dead and 6 wounded

yikes

[BigMass]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
And still they refuse to believe they have an issue with their gun laws.

I don't see how gun laws have anything to do with what happened yesterday or today. Anyone can get a gun in Canada. Do you consider Canada to have too lax gun laws as well?

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
And still they refuse to believe they have an issue with their gun laws.

They don't, they have a culture problem.

You'll recall we've had shootings in Canada as well.

Czech Republic has some of the most lenient gun carrying laws in the western world, yet they have a lower homicide rate than Canada.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Hakkola


They don't, they have a culture problem.

You'll recall we've had shootings in Canada as well.

Czech Republic has some of the most lenient gun carrying laws in the western world, yet they have a lower homicide rate than Canada.

Might be a good idea then to make guns difficult to obtain in a country with such a serious culture problem.

[BigMass]

Originally posted by Hakkola


They don't, they have a culture problem.

You'll recall we've had shootings in Canada as well.

Czech Republic has some of the most lenient gun carrying laws in the western world, yet they have a lower homicide rate than Canada.

Lets also not forget about Switzerland which has mandatory gun ownership. The personal weapon of militia personnel is kept at home as part of the military obligations. This, in addition to liberal gun laws and strong shooting traditions, has led to a very high gun count per capita. Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, but also one of the lowest firearm related crime rates in the world.

[randedge]

Oh man.... I love H&K

[TurboD]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

Might be a good idea then to make guns difficult to obtain in a country with such a serious culture problem.

What are you proposing is done to achieve this?
Maybe you could share your magical methods for the drug enforcement community as well.

everyone is dying to know how to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals, while at the same timing not stripping the average citizen the freedom to defend themselves and their property.

[Redlyne_mr2]

I'm not going to get into some back and forth argument about gun laws and "rights to defend ones self". What I'm simply saying is there are a lot of crazies in the US who have easy access to weapons, it doesn't take a genius to realize there is a big problem south of the border.

[Legless_Marine2]

Originally posted by BigMass
[B]

Lets also not forget about Switzerland which has mandatory gun ownership. The personal weapon of militia personnel is kept at home as part of the military obligations. This, in addition to liberal gun laws and strong shooting traditions, has led to a very high gun count per capita. Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, but also one of the lowest firearm related crime rates in the world.

You're looking in the wrong place.

This isn't just about rate gun ownership, or gun availability - It's also about the cultural context.

America is a highly militarized society, and has been since it's inception. It's a culture that embraces and elevates violence as both a pastime, and a solution to all problems.

[freshprince1]

2nd Ammendment FTW!

[BigMass]

Originally posted by Legless_Marine2


You're looking in the wrong place.

This isn't just about rate gun ownership, or gun availability - It's also about the cultural context.

America is a highly militarized society, and has been since it's inception. It's a culture that embraces and elevates violence as both a pastime, and a solution to all problems.

and you really think that the American culture of violence was behind the shootings yesterday and today. Seriously?

Maybe you should ask the perpetrators why they did what they did first instead of trying to add some all encompassing societal psychological spin to the incidents.