Vaping and rethinking smoking.

[Robin Goodfellow]

Picked up a disposable chocoloate vape the other day to give it a shot.

My child found it on the kitchen table, asked what it was.

I told them it was a rectal thermometer.

It was a reflexive lie... I didn't want them to see me doing something like smoking or think that it was ok to smoke.

Then it occurred to me in a flash: Today's kids are going to pick up a strawberry vape before the pick up a pack of players, and my concerns are probably unfounded.

I realize the landscape of "smoking" has just been turned upside down in the last two years.

Thoughts?

[Tik-Tok]

Now they're going to think it's ok to suck on rectal thermometers...

[firebane]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Now they're going to think it's ok to suck on rectal thermometers...

*insert many gay jokes here*

[01RedDX]

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[GQBalla]

Kids will pick up cigarettes as well.

[BavarianBeast]

Just don't let them catch you with it in your mouth now.. Haha.

[Feruk]

What if your kid sticks it in his butt and doesn't tell you??

[Xtrema]

Talking about blowing smoke up your ass.......

[speedog]

Originally posted by Feruk
What if your kid sticks it in his butt and doesn't tell you??

Man, I am so glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read that.

Back on topic though, it would've probably been better to tell the truth - they'll most likely try the shit you're telling fibs about and it's better to arm them as best as possible with all the pro's and con's whether it's smoking, vaping, drinking, drugs and the list goes on. It's been our family's experience that the parents that hide things have ended up with kids that experiment in often unsafe ways or amounts - that's not to say that that's the case every time but an informed kid can often make a better choice than one that has no good guidance.

[01RedDX]

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[firebane]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
^ This, when you create an enigma out of something you are only enticing your kid to try it. That's why education on both sexuality and substances needs to start in childhood.

I try not to vape around my kid but once in a while I'll be in the den and she will sneak up behind me. There's really no smell associated with it and I just explain "this helped daddy quit smoking, but it's not something you need to do if you're not addicted to cigarettes."

My dad used to smoke in the car and I still remember how nauseous it made me when I was a kid. Never thought I would end up smoking for 18 years. Now I on't want it within a mile of my kid.

But you see what I put in bold.. There is a smell.. and she will learn to associate with something your doing.

Don't try and fool your kids.

[Go4Long]

The only people that don't seem to smell it is people that smoked.

[Robin Goodfellow]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Now they're going to think it's ok to suck on rectal thermometers...

How else do you get the flavor?

[Robin Goodfellow]

Originally posted by speedog

Back on topic though, it would've probably been better to tell the truth - they'll most likely try the shit you're telling fibs about and it's better to arm them as best as possible with all the pro's and con's whether it's smoking, vaping, drinking, drugs and the list goes on. It's been our family's experience that the parents that hide things have ended up with kids that experiment in often unsafe ways or amounts - that's not to say that that's the case every time but an informed kid can often make a better choice than one that has no good guidance.

You're 100% right, and usually I'm honest with my kids, but had an odd moment of panic where I didn't want my kid to think I was smoking.

I talked to them today, apologized for lying, and explained why - That I was afraid if they saw me smoking a pretent cigarette, that they'd want to try real ones.

I showed them the ecig, and explained that it was kind of like Candy... that a little was ok, but that it was something better done in moderation.

[firebane]

Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow


I showed them the ecig, and explained that it was kind of like Candy... that a little was ok, but that it was something better done in moderation.

So you go from something that we know is 100% bad for us to something that is like candy and ok in moderation? A product that nobody knows the effects it has on our health?

You sure are not setting any good examples here....

[Robin Goodfellow]

Originally posted by 01RedDX

My dad used to smoke in the car and I still remember how nauseous it made me when I was a kid. Never thought I would end up smoking for 18 years. Now I don't want it within a mile of my kid.

Similar story here - We follow the examples set by our parents.

Which is why my impulsive lie to my child.


Mind you, we're in a different age now, and I think the e-cigs are a lot more appealing than tobacco...

I'm quickly cluing in that the e-cigs are serious nails in the coffin of big tobacco, and the possibility of my children growing up to smoke is negligible.

[firebane]

Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow


Similar story here - We follow the examples set by our parents.

Which is why my impulsive lie to my child.


Mind you, we're in a different age now, and I think the e-cigs are a lot more appealing than tobacco...

I'm quickly cluing in that the e-cigs are serious nails in the coffin of big tobacco, and the possibility of my children growing up to smoke is negligible.

Cigarettes will never go away just as gasoline never will go away.

As society changes you'll find there will be a larger push towards electric powered vehicles and alternative smoking habits.. but until all the old people die and a few more generations die.. it won't change.

[Robin Goodfellow]

Originally posted by firebane


So you go from something that we know is 100% bad for us to something that is like candy and ok in moderation? A product that nobody knows the effects it has on our health?

Unknown is relative.

I'm sure we'll learn more about the long term effects of these as time goes on, but I doubt if there are any serious surprises in store.

Candy is a perfect metaphor, at least as far as my children are concerned. They well understand that Candy is pleasurable in moderation, and harmful in excess.


It's inconceivable to me that moderate use could present any health risks.

[firebane]

Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow


Candy is a perfect metaphor, at least as far as my children are concerned. They well understand that Candy is pleasurable in moderation, and harmful in excess.

So now your telling your kids that its ok in moderation to do something like vaping? Well guess you can't give them shit if you see them doing it in the near future huh.

Because you know its like candy and its ok in moderation.

[Robin Goodfellow]

Originally posted by firebane


Cigarettes will never go away just as gasoline never will go away.

You're comparing apples to snowblowers.

Cigarettes have just been dethroned by an alternative that is self-evidently superior in many ways.

No such alternative currently exists for gasoline.