Two dead. Drunk 20 yr old driver minor injuries.

[Lex350]

Originally posted by sexualbanana
Maybe it's a different accident (which I hope not because it means there's a pattern), but I heard the driver was texting about how awesome it was they were driving drunk.

That is a different story.

drunk texter

[alien]

Originally posted by rage2

I think you're misunderstanding how it works. Alcohol gets absorbed and into your bloodstream. The liver process it from your bloodstream. The rate that the liver metabolized alcohol will determine how fast your BAC goes down. It'll just keep going down.

The only time BAC continues to rise is if you have a slow or delayed absorption rate, but that window is more like 30 minutes (ie having a shot before leaving). Common DUI defense tactic.

Is that why at checkstops they ask when the last drink was and will wait a certain time before you have to blow?

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by rage2

I think you're misunderstanding how it works.

I've been misunderstanding a lot lately. I should be banned from posting until my newborn starts sleeping through the night

[rage2]

Originally posted by alien
Is that why at checkstops they ask when the last drink was and will wait a certain time before you have to blow?

No. That's to ensure the sample is as accurate as possible. If you take a sip of alcohol and immediately do a breath sample, it'll read really high. 15-20 wait ensures that the sample only contains alcohol from your lungs, and not your throat/mouth.

In cases like this, a blood sample is taken later after the accident, as that is much more accurate, and not as susceptible to the absorption defense.

[ImTherious]

Time to start a local chapter of the Star Chamber.

[GOnSHO]

Originally posted by Manhattan
This is the kid. Friends on facebook saying he stopped drinking 3-4 hours before driving so he wasn't completely "wasted".

https://www.facebook.com/alex.montoya.1848

just played a game of soccer against this goof ball about a week ago, was a tool on the soccer field too

[got_mike33]

A bunch of my friend's sisters knew the deceased. Lots of pictures of her on my facebook these past few days. Such a shame that she was doing the right thing while the guy who killed her wasn't.

Heard a report on Global today that the driver was still on his learners permit too.

One friend made a good point about how not only was the driver responsible but his two friends in the car with him made equally poor decisions. Letting him drive in the first place and then getting in a car with a drunk driver.

The driver is a fucking moron and deserves to have his life ruined over this.

[ekguy]

scumbag...wayyy too many time the scumbag walks when the others don't...

should be reversed.

[D88]

Can the courts please ban that fucker from driving for life please? God-fucking-dammit!

[topmade]

+1 for lifetime driving ban. Wife works at the same company as Jillian but different dept so she didn't know her that well. Let's not forget about the taxi driver who has left his wife and two kids. RIP to them all. This kid needs the book thrown at him and made an example to all new drivers.

[got_mike33]

Just thought I should add this; Jillian's family is raising funds for the family of the taxi driver and MADD, through a legacy fund. Donations can be made here: http://chim.pn/1bSZ4HG

[vengie]

Originally posted by got_mike33
Just thought I should add this; Jillian's family is raising funds for the family of the taxi driver and MADD, through a legacy fund. Donations can be made here: http://chim.pn/1bSZ4HG

That is absolutely amazing.

I can't fucking stand drunk drivers. How many innocent people will have to die before idiots realize THEY AREN'T INVINCIBLE!! People genuinely do not give a shit about other people.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by vengie


That is absolutely amazing.

I can't fucking stand drunk drivers. How many innocent people will have to die before idiots realize THEY AREN'T INVINCIBLE!! People genuinely do not give a shit about other people.

That's not true!

Drinking makes everyone a better singer, dancer, pool player and driver!

Just ask anyone at the bar!

[Canmorite]

What a piece of human garbage. I hope they throw the book at him, but he'll likely be out in <5 years

[roopi]

Originally posted by got_mike33
Just thought I should add this; Jillian's family is raising funds for the family of the taxi driver and MADD, through a legacy fund. Donations can be made here: http://chim.pn/1bSZ4HG

When I heard about this accident on the news my first thought was that the cab drivers family most likely relied completely on him for income.

I'm glad someone got this started (even better that it is from the Lavallee family). Donated and shared on Facebook. Spread the word people!

[heavyD]

Originally posted by rage2

I'd say that's BS. He got charged with impaired causing death, which means he was over .08 at the time of the accident. You would have to be past blackout drunk to register over .08 after you've stopped drinking for that long.

Hard to say. When I got my impaired in 1991 I blew 0.27. I was drinking since noon all day and tailed off in the evening and was pulled over (for speeding) at 1:00 a.m. I pretty well totally stopped drinking hours before being pulled over. When they took me to the station they made me blow two more times because they thought maybe the equipment was messed up seeing that to them I spoke and walked perfectly normal and aced all their test questions. They kept telling he how they see people blow half that and couldn't even stand up and to them I appeared sober.

[revelations]

Originally posted by heavyD


Hard to say. When I got my impaired in 1991 I blew 0.27. I was drinking since noon all day and tailed off in the evening and was pulled over (for speeding) at 1:00 a.m. I pretty well totally stopped drinking hours before being pulled over. When they took me to the station they made me blow two more times because they thought maybe the equipment was messed up seeing that to them I spoke and walked perfectly normal and aced all their test questions. They kept telling he how they see people blow half that and couldn't even stand up and to them I appeared sober.

Technology has come a long way since 1991, also habitual drinkers condition themselves to a high BA.

Thats why BA is such an arbitrary number - I recall a few years back some girl drove up the DeerFoot in the wrong lane and she could hardly walk after when pulled over, but blew under because it was her first drink (or something to that effect) and probably weighted 90 lbs.

[UndrgroundRider]

Originally posted by rage2
The only time BAC continues to rise is if you have a slow or delayed absorption rate, but that window is more like 30 minutes (ie having a shot before leaving). Common DUI defense tactic.

The rate of absorption into the body and the rate metabolized by the liver are highly variable.

On an empty stomach complete absorption by the stomach and small intestine usually takes 30 minutes. On an individual with a full digestive tract complete absorption can take up to 6 hours.

The rate the liver metabolizes is also quite variable. On average the liver can metabolize only 13 ml of alcohol per hour (0.7 drinks). Heavy drinkers can metabolize 38 ml of alcohol per hour (2 drinks).

[Impreza]

What a fucking piece of shit. He sure looks like a contributing member to society.... what is sad is that he will likely only get 3 years like Ramandeep Singh Jaswal.