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Rat Fink
02-08-2013, 08:26 AM
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icky2unk
02-08-2013, 09:10 AM
BB still climbing :clap:

Euro_Trash
02-08-2013, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Pretty much, it is an old trick of mine.

Post it up!

Sugarphreak
02-08-2013, 09:25 AM
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Rat Fink
02-08-2013, 06:57 PM
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Sugarphreak
02-08-2013, 07:08 PM
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themack89
02-08-2013, 10:45 PM
Does anybody know if TransCanada has a stock for their power division?

bmeier
02-11-2013, 09:59 AM
TBE is still dropping only a couple cents from the 52 week low. Seems like a lot of doubt in the company what are you investors thinking? I initially thought it was a big over reaction from the primate drop in performance but it seems like there is a lot more fear than that.

Crude pricing has also dropped a fair amount. Those of who are invested are you holding buying or selling?

borN
02-11-2013, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by bmeier
TBE is still dropping only a couple cents from the 52 week low. Seems like a lot of doubt in the company what are you investors thinking? I initially thought it was a big over reaction from the primate drop in performance but it seems like there is a lot more fear than that.

Crude pricing has also dropped a fair amount. Those of who are invested are you holding buying or selling?

Lots of fear in the stock. Quite justified IMO...

Sugarphreak
02-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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icky2unk
02-12-2013, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by bmeier
TBE is still dropping only a couple cents from the 52 week low. Seems like a lot of doubt in the company what are you investors thinking? I initially thought it was a big over reaction from the primate drop in performance but it seems like there is a lot more fear than that.

Crude pricing has also dropped a fair amount. Those of who are invested are you holding buying or selling?

Holding. Has always been a strong company

icky2unk
02-12-2013, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


And sinking like a stone... I might buy in mid-day tomorrow depending on how it is looking.

I wouldn't go as far a sinking. It just leveled off. Nothing to push it either direction minus yesterday and the Home Depot thing.

Red@8
02-12-2013, 12:17 PM
I was looking for a little more drop on TBE before picking up some shares. Up nicely for you guys holding today.

Egypt is really killing my TGL play. I am still in the green but I know that sp should be so much higher.

swak
02-12-2013, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


And sinking like a stone... I might buy in mid-day tomorrow depending on how it is looking.

THIS.

Im hoping its just a mid dip then will climb again once US Market release...

I'm holding on. Really iffy investment though - have a bit riding here... :confused:

Feruk
02-12-2013, 12:36 PM
Any thoughts on when we might see US sales numbers for the BB10?

swak
02-12-2013, 12:37 PM
I think release is mid-March.

Manhattan
02-12-2013, 12:41 PM
Anyone tracking NML? Seems like a really nice growth stock right now.

swak
02-12-2013, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Manhattan
Anyone tracking NML? Seems like a really nice growth stock right now.

Just checked them out... Looks like they're down .50 since Jan on a $1.50 stock..... down 33%, i wouldn't classify that as having good growth :nut:

Might be a good buy now though haha

Sugarphreak
02-12-2013, 01:15 PM
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swak
02-12-2013, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Damn, I am already down 5% on Fortis... thinking about flipping it for a loss and moving on. Still, my spider-stock senses are telling me to hold it for another week.



Very predictable behavior so far.

I bought back in today, not nearly as heavily as I did the first time. I figure I will easily get a 5% gain on it over the next 2 weeks sometime. It is down a good 6% over two days which usually results in a correction shortly after.

Once sales figures are announced and it appears market share is increasing (which I am fairly certain it is) it will cause the stock to shoot up again and probably hold for quite some time.

Hoping this is the case most definitely.
Do you see BB flopping in the long-haul?

Sugarphreak
02-12-2013, 01:31 PM
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swak
02-12-2013, 02:14 PM
Yeah never really considered the market impact haha. But so true.
I recently parked some money in MSFT. They're looking pretty dece as of recent too.

Feruk
02-12-2013, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Manhattan
Anyone tracking NML? Seems like a really nice growth stock right now.
Growth indicates production. This company has none. They have reserves and reserves growth, but they don't make any money.

tch7
02-12-2013, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Manhattan
Anyone tracking NML? Seems like a really nice growth stock right now.
I've been in it for a couple years. Extremely volatile and I'm well into the red overall, but I still think it' a great company with an excellent longer-term outlook.

KappaSigma
02-13-2013, 09:26 AM
Call me a gambler but I added to my position at DCK in this pullback.

Feruk
02-13-2013, 11:27 AM
Anyone following SPP? Spot Coffee? I'm tempted to just throw in a small amount and see if it goes big or goes to 0.

Inzane
02-13-2013, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by swak
I recently parked some money in MSFT. They're looking pretty dece as of recent too.

Have a look at the 5 and 10 year trends. MSFT has traded relatively flat forever it seems.

I grabbed some for $20 early in 2009 when the market started to recover and sold sometime in 2010 for $28. Where's it at now... $28.

If you follow that stock regularly you might be able to snag a 10-15% gain here or there, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that stock is going to "take off" any time soon. Do you have some new/recent information that could shed some light on their outlook?

bmeier
02-13-2013, 02:57 PM
Bb getting Shit on...

roopi
02-13-2013, 03:01 PM
Just bought back into BB today below $14.

Also started to aquire a large position in NVS over the past few days. Shorts building on this one over the past 3 weeks and getting slammed on BNN by a previous analyst who loved it. Seems like there is an endless supply of shares for sale (must be someone still shorting or dumping a large position).

I know this company has been mentioned in the past a few times and I've been in and out of it. I beleive last time I sold in the $0.90's somewhere. What peaks my interest again on this one is:

1. They are still for sale (they announced this back in December)
2. There has been some large volume days over the past few weeks

Feruk
02-13-2013, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by roopi
Also started to aquire a large position in NVS over the past few days. Shorts building on this one over the past 3 weeks and getting slammed on BNN by a previous analyst who loved it. Seems like there is an endless supply of shares for sale (must be someone still shorting or dumping a large position).

I know this company has been mentioned in the past a few times and I've been in and out of it. I beleive last time I sold in the $0.90's somewhere. What peaks my interest again on this one is:

1. They are still for sale (they announced this back in December)
2. There has been some large volume days over the past few weeks
I dumped my entire position in NVS a few weeks ago. If there were options on this name, I'd be buying puts right now. I got in last August somewhere in the $0.70 to $0.75ish range and dumped at ~$1.12. I think your high upside is $1.25 on acquisition. If no news, a merger, or any sort of reverse takeover, it goes straight back to $0.90. There are no obvious buyers and the risk-reward is just not there for me.

borN
02-13-2013, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Feruk

I dumped my entire position in NVS a few weeks ago. If there were options on this name, I'd be buying puts right now. I got in last August somewhere in the $0.70 to $0.75ish range and dumped at ~$1.12. I think your high upside is $1.25 on acquisition. If no news, a merger, or any sort of reverse takeover, it goes straight back to $0.90. There are no obvious buyers and the risk-reward is just not there for me.

I'd agree to an extent. There are some obvious buyers, particularly Teine, RRX, and WCP, but just not at the price that NVS is asking. Even TOL is linked to this. I do believe though that there's much more downside than upside with this company and most of the premium of an acquisition is already priced in.

Sugarphreak
02-13-2013, 07:40 PM
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roopi
02-13-2013, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Feruk

I dumped my entire position in NVS a few weeks ago. If there were options on this name, I'd be buying puts right now. I got in last August somewhere in the $0.70 to $0.75ish range and dumped at ~$1.12. I think your high upside is $1.25 on acquisition. If no news, a merger, or any sort of reverse takeover, it goes straight back to $0.90. There are no obvious buyers and the risk-reward is just not there for me.

Why do you say there are no obvious buyers?


Originally posted by borN


I'd agree to an extent. There are some obvious buyers, particularly Teine, RRX, and WCP, but just not at the price that NVS is asking. Even TOL is linked to this. I do believe though that there's much more downside than upside with this company and most of the premium of an acquisition is already priced in.

Has NVS came out and said what they would like in a takeover? :dunno:

sabad66
02-13-2013, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by swak
Yeah never really considered the market impact haha. But so true.
I recently parked some money in MSFT. They're looking pretty dece as of recent too.
I recently got in on MSFT as well for around 27.35. I'm thinking they could have a big year with Surface (the Pro at least :poosie: ), Office 2013, and the new xbox.

We'll see what happens.

bmeier
02-14-2013, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Wow, glad I didn't take a huge position in it this time... this stock is really volatile.

i have been sitting on the sidelines this whole month wishing i had gone in when it was going up 20% and being relieved i hadnt when it is down %20.

some good money has been made by active traders...

I still think going forward it is a good buy, just need to find a good entry point. under 14 or 13 is a decent start i think.

swak
02-14-2013, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Inzane


Have a look at the 5 and 10 year trends. MSFT has traded relatively flat forever it seems.

I grabbed some for $20 early in 2009 when the market started to recover and sold sometime in 2010 for $28. Where's it at now... $28.

If you follow that stock regularly you might be able to snag a 10-15% gain here or there, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that stock is going to "take off" any time soon. Do you have some new/recent information that could shed some light on their outlook?

Bought in seeing as AAPL has a percieved forecast of dropping/levelling off.
Where else are they gonna go? Haha.
But yea they are really level thoughout the years for sure... A pretty conservative stock at least to park some money
And took a rather large investment in BB :( hoping they come back once they get released in the us. But they just lost a client with 10000. Not good.

Might be best off to just sell and take the 5% up (bought in around 12.50)

Feruk
02-14-2013, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by roopi
Why do you say there are no obvious buyers?


Look at their land position. Obviously buyers would be: PWT, WCP, CPG, or RPL. PWT is broke, WCP and RPL already have a big position. WCP would probably look at it but not at this price. CPG is more interested in stuff down south now IMO than some tiny tuck in. Tiene and TOL are too small; merger. RRX is a maybe at best.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on some natural gas company doing merger to re-position themselves or, best case scenario, a decent offer from a private company. Someone like Northern Blizzard. I don't know though... I'd be worried that they think they're worth more than they actually are.


Originally posted by roopi
Has NVS came out and said what they would like in a takeover? :dunno:
Yes. "Value realization process" along with open data room. They are shopping themselves around. Hence the immediate spike from $0.90 on the day they announced that they were on sale. IMO the company's worth $0.90, the rest is hype.

roopi
02-14-2013, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Feruk


Look at their land position. Obviously buyers would be: PWT, WCP, CPG, or RPL. PWT is broke, WCP and RPL already have a big position. WCP would probably look at it but not at this price. CPG is more interested in stuff down south now IMO than some tiny tuck in. Tiene and TOL are too small; merger. RRX is a maybe at best.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on some natural gas company doing merger to re-position themselves or, best case scenario, a decent offer from a private company. Someone like Northern Blizzard. I don't know though... I'd be worried that they think they're worth more than they actually are.


Yes. "Value realization process" along with open data room. They are shopping themselves around. Hence the immediate spike from $0.90 on the day they announced that they were on sale. IMO the company's worth $0.90, the rest is hype.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to roll the dice on this one for the next couple of weeks to see how it plays out.

GQBalla
02-14-2013, 01:52 PM
missed out on BBRY...
SIGH

icky2unk
02-14-2013, 02:18 PM
and just like that its back hah

woodywoodford
02-14-2013, 02:25 PM
Sure hope nobody's sitting on/works for PSN today....

Sugarphreak
02-14-2013, 02:28 PM
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woodywoodford
02-14-2013, 02:35 PM
Isn't today's rally due to balsillie finally severing ties? If that's the case there should still be some more upside, that guy was nothing but a curse. Then again I've been forcing myself to be bullish since launch. Lost all my money on those goddamn options :banghead:

icky2unk
02-14-2013, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


And I'm out... I've had enough of BB's roller coaster for a while.

Also bailed out of Fortis, but still holding Enbridge. Picked up some PMG and PKI today, we will see how that pans out.

Not a bad 5+% gain i'm sure. i should start trading on higher volumes but I just can't justify selling my equity stake in TBE & TOU. Long term holds hah.

and in reference to above post, I'm with ya. Was bullish on launch too lol

Sugarphreak
02-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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swak
02-14-2013, 04:10 PM
Pretty early to sell IMO, BB just hit their boom again?

I could be wrong though

msommers
02-14-2013, 04:26 PM
BB is going to be a roller coaster for awhile. Maybe once the phone with the physical keyboard is out things will settle. But buying in right now is anyone's game and far too radical for my tastes.

Apple was the stock that just didn't quit. It was projected to be over $1000 at the end of 2015. Who knows what's happening now. I think the average consumer is realizing that for the performance/dollar there are better or different options available.

asp integra
02-14-2013, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by woodywoodford
Sure hope nobody's sitting on/works for PSN today....


WOW, down 70%! jesus, what happened?


Also i bought more BB this morning, keep going up baby!

Sugarphreak
02-14-2013, 06:35 PM
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borN
02-15-2013, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by asp integra



WOW, down 70%! jesus, what happened?


Also i bought more BB this morning, keep going up baby!

Company misstated Q1 through Q3 of 2012 financials. Essentially, over 2/3 of its revenue should not have been booked and its unit utilization is around 25% rented at the moment. PSN is halted right now because it'll have to redo all its past financials... hits just keep on coming.

woodywoodford
02-15-2013, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by borN


Company misstated Q1 through Q3 of 2012 financials. Essentially, over 2/3 of its revenue should not have been booked and its unit utilization is around 25% rented at the moment. PSN is halted right now because it'll have to redo all its past financials... hits just keep on coming.

If I remember the story correctly, it said something to the extent that ~100M of the 148 in revenue they booked over Q1-3 '12 shouldn't have been claimed, most likely due to their issues collecting on recievables. They took an equally massive hit in November when they first found that problem, now this is just the nail in the coffin. They're done boys.

icky2unk
02-15-2013, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by woodywoodford


If I remember the story correctly, it said something to the extent that ~100M of the 148 in revenue they booked over Q1-3 '12 shouldn't have been claimed, most likely due to their issues collecting on recievables. They took an equally massive hit in November when they first found that problem, now this is just the nail in the coffin. They're done boys.

Somebody going to jaillllll

quick_scar
02-15-2013, 11:04 AM
^^ What are the chances that a board restructure could bring them back from the dead?

dawerks
02-15-2013, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by quick_scar
^^ What are the chances that a board restructure could bring them back from the dead?

It's irrelevant if you are 'investing' with them. If you have a job with them, it might matter, but it's just better to walk away and look for an easier trade.

I am winding down all my trades and 'selling in March' to beat the rush. I don't think the market has much steam left. Some short term trades I'm happy to keep as long term (BB).

icky2unk
02-15-2013, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by quick_scar
^^ What are the chances that a board restructure could bring them back from the dead?

Highly doubt anything will. They are going to have class action suits all over them and the board and management will all be under question. This was basically the nail in the coffin.

Peronsally I wouldn't put my money anywhere near a company that went from $15 to $0.30 in 3 months hah

GoChris
02-15-2013, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


And I'm out... I've had enough of BB's roller coaster for a while.

Also bailed out of Fortis, but still holding Enbridge. Picked up some PMG and PKI today, we will see how that pans out.

I like PKI, always have paid a decent dividend. I bought a while back at $13 and am happy.

Meback
02-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Hey guys, I am a large holder of ABX and GG. Unfortunately I am not doing so hot lol. Anyways, I would have made a pretty penny based on the recent quarterly reports, but gold prices shit the bed with all that G20 talk and the "no currency war" claims. :rolleyes:

Wondering what are peoples thought on this, and if this is a real turn around for gold prices... I m not one to bet against America, but with all this paper money printing going on from the states, European union, japan, and YES the Chinese artificially suppressing the value of the Yuan I dont see a reason why gold prices are due for a severe pull back.

TomcoPDR
02-16-2013, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by GoChris


I like PKI, always have paid a decent dividend. I bought a while back at $13 and am happy.

:thumbsup: Been in Parkland since 2002 on and off... Enrolled in the dividend repurchase plan

GoChris
02-18-2013, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by TomcoPDR


:thumbsup: Been in Parkland since 2002 on and off... Enrolled in the dividend repurchase plan

I enrolled in the DRIP for my account at BMO InvestorLine. I wonder if I have to do anything else for their repurchase bonus plan? Or if that's the same as the DRIP I already have applied. I've had it for a while.

bmeier
02-20-2013, 11:47 AM
Tbe 52 week low. Are you guys panicking yet? I'm looking to get in soon going to watch closely

Sugarphreak
02-20-2013, 12:13 PM
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Meback
02-20-2013, 09:13 PM
I m red... Really red. But I guess I m gonna hold onto everything and collect an annual dividend of 2500 for 2013. I m not one to sell, sucks that I m overweighted in P- Metals. I have some cash left on the side... enough for a new car or a down payment on a home. If markets continues in this direction I m gonna buy more and hold of my other plans.

icky2unk
02-21-2013, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by bmeier
Tbe 52 week low. Are you guys panicking yet? I'm looking to get in soon going to watch closely

Market is just trash lately hah. Oil prices down big. TBE still a strong buy on many analysts. But we all know that means very little hah.

dawerks
02-21-2013, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Meback
I m red... Really red. But I guess I m gonna hold onto everything and collect an annual dividend of 2500 for 2013. I m not one to sell, sucks that I m overweighted in P- Metals. I have some cash left on the side... enough for a new car or a down payment on a home. If markets continues in this direction I m gonna buy more and hold of my other plans.

Averaging down is a sucker play. Averaging up is the right move.

You are taking increasingly more risk by averaging down for less and less reward. It doesn't make sense. Markets run on trends, and if the trend is down, do you really want to be there?

Do you as you please, but be careful. I would rather have the 'sure thing' of a house downpayment than gamble down. (And trust me, if you have a wife/gf, she will thank you for it too!).

PS I almost lost every single cent and my houses when I was 'averaging' down so I do speak form personal experience. It's gut wrenching. I always have stops to keep bleeding down to 4 to 7% (MAX!).

Meback
02-21-2013, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by dawerks


Averaging down is a sucker play. Averaging up is the right move.

You are taking increasingly more risk by averaging down for less and less reward. It doesn't make sense. Markets run on trends, and if the trend is down, do you really want to be there?

Do you as you please, but be careful. I would rather have the 'sure thing' of a house downpayment than gamble down. (And trust me, if you have a wife/gf, she will thank you for it too!).

PS I almost lost every single cent and my houses when I was 'averaging' down so I do speak form personal experience. It's gut wrenching. I always have stops to keep bleeding down to 4 to 7% (MAX!).

Should have made it a bit clear, I m not averaging down any of the positions I currently own. I don't mind it being a 10 year long hold if P-Metals prices are gonna be suppressed. I know I am holding good companies and recessions will come and go. What I meant by "buying more" is getting into other sectors. Theres probably better things I could do with that money, but life threw me a lemon, and I m gonna make lemonade.

e36bmw///
02-21-2013, 10:15 PM
bn

bmeier
02-21-2013, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by icky2unk


Market is just trash lately hah. Oil prices down big. TBE still a strong buy on many analysts. But we all know that means very little hah.

i ended up buying in, not a huge amount but hopefully today is a sign of things to come.

icky2unk
02-22-2013, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by dawerks


Averaging down is a sucker play. Averaging up is the right move.

You are taking increasingly more risk by averaging down for less and less reward. It doesn't make sense. Markets run on trends, and if the trend is down, do you really want to be there?

Do you as you please, but be careful. I would rather have the 'sure thing' of a house downpayment than gamble down. (And trust me, if you have a wife/gf, she will thank you for it too!).

PS I almost lost every single cent and my houses when I was 'averaging' down so I do speak form personal experience. It's gut wrenching. I always have stops to keep bleeding down to 4 to 7% (MAX!).

Why speak as if you know how the market works?

Averaging up or down doens't matter. If you averaged up on Apple you'd be getting shit on right now.

Stocks can go either way and if it were as simple as averaging down is a bad idea then short everything you think is a bad idea to average down and come back to us a millionaire.

Markets move on slight trends but very unpredictable. People make serious money on averaging down on something they believe in. If something was a good buy at 20 but its dropped to 15 because of oil prices and some technical difficulties that have no reflection of the quality of assets and management you better damn well believe i'd buy more at 15.

Don't give out advice because you made stupid decisions in your past. You could lose your house down payment by averaging up too. You could lose everything by just having it in the market. There is risk on either side.

Also a 4-7% stop loss for any sort of "long" term investment is stupid because stocks can move that much daily as a result of very little and bounce back the next day. I get it though, you lost your money so now you are extremely risk adverse. But don't go around telling everyone that because what you did lost money that is isn't a good idea.

m5art
02-22-2013, 02:20 PM
If you bucking the trend, averaging down is not a good idea. Remember Nortel? At 100, down from 200 was it a good idea?

Disclaimer: this is NOT an investment advice, you and only you are responsible for your trades and your money.

dawerks
02-22-2013, 06:59 PM
I stand corrected; averaging down is the superior trading strategy. Icky, good luck!

roopi
02-22-2013, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by dawerks
I stand corrected; averaging down is the superior trading strategy. Icky, good luck!

I appreciated your comments. You learned from personal experiences (I have as well) and I feel this is the best way to learn about investing. Do what works for you!

dawerks
02-25-2013, 06:03 PM
Thanks roopi! I crossed the line when I was suggesting 'what to do' instead of simply offering my experience and what I've done.

Any interesting trades out there? I am greedily eying (sp?) APPL but I think the market has lost it's legs.

I am buying a little more Temple (TPH) as it's the only 'real' Fort McMurray hotel play. Warning; very boring stock. But it has a close to 10% dividend.

e36bmw///
02-25-2013, 07:04 PM
nm

roopi
02-25-2013, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by dawerks
Thanks roopi! I crossed the line when I was suggesting 'what to do' instead of simply offering my experience and what I've done.

Any interesting trades out there? I am greedily eying (sp?) APPL but I think the market has lost it's legs.

I am buying a little more Temple (TPH) as it's the only 'real' Fort McMurray hotel play. Warning; very boring stock. But it has a close to 10% dividend.

I've checked out TPH in the past but never did buy it. I ended up going with BTB.UN as my REIT. I believe te divy is around 8-9% at the current levels. I've had it for about 2 years so I've had a good gain on it.

Latest purchase was NVS and the rest of te trading account is sittin in cash. Just don't see anything I really like at the moment.

ZenOps
02-26-2013, 06:46 AM
Another vote for cash.

Market and commodity crash probability is high, parking it on the sidelines might be wise.

Or you might want to be shorting insurance companies.

Feruk
02-26-2013, 09:29 AM
Cash, and SPP. Bought 10,000 shares of SPP last week at $0.125. If they get the financing they need, it could be a very fast expansion from here in both coffee store locations and share price.

Sugarphreak
02-26-2013, 11:59 AM
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swak
02-26-2013, 12:22 PM
markets really shitting bricks lately...

Im at my first negative positioning with BB... :whipped:
and my other two stocks are always down at this time haha. So not a big deal, but not stoked.

Sugarphreak
02-26-2013, 01:43 PM
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GoChris
02-26-2013, 02:29 PM
PKI...NOOOOOOOOOO! :dunno:

I'm no finance guru, in fact I'm barely above retarded, but wasn't their press results today positive? Operating costs are down, revenue is up, dividend is up.

Sugarphreak
02-26-2013, 02:33 PM
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revelations
02-26-2013, 02:51 PM
Looking at this page quickly, are there no tech swing or day traders here?

All I see are fundies.


Originally posted by GoChris
PKI...NOOOOOOOOOO! :dunno:

I'm no finance guru, in fact I'm barely above retarded, but wasn't their press results today positive? Operating costs are down, revenue is up, dividend is up.

While I dont know the specifcs for that stock, just because earnings come out + or - doesent always mean anything. The stock price might be reflecting the expected results before the news came out.

GoChris
02-26-2013, 04:07 PM
Right, good results might be lower than expectations.

I think I'll buy more once this downturn levels out.

icky2unk
02-28-2013, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by m5art
If you bucking the trend, averaging down is not a good idea. Remember Nortel? At 100, down from 200 was it a good idea?

Disclaimer: this is NOT an investment advice, you and only you are responsible for your trades and your money.

You can pick and choose a thousand stocks out of hindsight and pick out a trend you wish to see but at the end of the day averaging down or averaging up doesn't matter because the stock can always and will always till the day the markets don't exist move either direction.

By throwing in Nortel then you are demonstrating Behavioural Finance 101. The big and memorable collapse of one company that would have been a poor decision to average down on seems to outweigh the thousands of other stocks that have gone the other way. I can think of tons of companies that have upwarded trended for years only to crash and i've seen companies downward trend recover.

Point in case, for anyone who averaged down in 2008 would be up huge right now. Anyone who averaged up in 2007 would be crying. At the end of the day whatever you choose to invest in and what strategy you choose doesn't matter because the market can and always has been unpredictable.

For instance, you look at TBE which was looking nice at 2.70+ and a strong pick in many cases. Crashed to 2 bucks in under a month time. Still a great buy and if you averaged down at 2 dollars to 2.20 you'd be sitting pretty right now that is has begun recovery.

Same can be said about those who bought into rim at 12-20 and averaged down at 6 bucks. You look at Prem Watsa who averaged his $60 position down when it was $6 and has turned a huge profit as a result.

I'm not saying any strategy is correct or incorrect. I'm simply stating to disregard one because of a bad experience doesn't necessarily make it a bad one.

On another note, BB & TBE up nicely today.

Picked up AD & WCP & KEY & more TBE yesterday.

icky2unk
02-28-2013, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by dawerks
I stand corrected; averaging down is the superior trading strategy. Icky, good luck!

I never said it was a superior trading strategy I was simply debating your point in that fact it is a poor strategy. You may have taken my discussion out of context but I simply state that I find both in many ways equal and either strategy can be good or bad.

Both can produce gains and losses equally.

revelations
02-28-2013, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by GoChris
Right, good results might be lower than expectations.

I think I'll buy more once this downturn levels out.

For a stock like PKI.TO, looks like a Weighted MA period of 1,6 seems to be right more often that wrong. I havent done a comprehensive optimize/back test on the chart so it might not work long term. For many stocks, a daily MA of 1,3 seems to work.

Had you used a 1,6 - you would have been sold out before the stock tanked.

AudiPWR
03-01-2013, 08:26 AM
Any opinions on PXX.TO (Blackpearl resources) ?

revelations
03-01-2013, 11:17 AM
PXX is a short right now on my charts - although I wouldnt enter this position at this point (usually wait until indicator cross).

AudiPWR
03-01-2013, 11:57 AM
Just sold my telus, entered PXX... See how it goes.

dawerks
03-03-2013, 01:32 PM
Is APPL a buy here or a value trap? $42/share cash!! Harder and harder to resist. $44/EPS, Forward/trailing PE around 10.

Or are they going to flatline like Microsoft? Er, stupid question to ask what will happen in the future... how about, does anyone else own APPL or planning on buying?

borN
03-03-2013, 02:46 PM
Just a quick reminder - spring break up is going to be particularly bad this year. Record snowfalls up north, and a number of companies have indicated that break up is coming earlier than last year (which was early as well).

Probably effect Q1 results slightly but mainly Q2.

kaput
03-03-2013, 06:58 PM
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GoChris
03-03-2013, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by kaput


How do you like InvestorLine? I'm thinking of switching over since it would be much more useful for me to move money around between my other BMO accounts.

I like it just fine. I'm the farthest from a power user. They have lots of research and comparison methods that I haven't even gotten into yet. Being able to fund easily from my BMO accounts help. Real time quotes when you want to buy is nice. Also you can pool all your accounts to a single user id and then get the $9 flat free pricing.

AudiPWR
03-04-2013, 11:38 AM
Anyone have any input on playing the APPL swings?

dawerks
03-04-2013, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by AudiPWR
Anyone have any input on playing the APPL swings?

Right now it seems to be a falling knife. I don't want to try and catch it but I reaaaly want to buy. Problem is everytime I man up to an order, it's down another 2-3%

How low can it go?? I buy in multiple purchases, but can't even bring myself to pull the trigger on the first one.

This thing needs a stock split :)

freshvibes
03-04-2013, 10:20 PM
Anyone active in the pennies market? This is just stupid, it was actually up 90,000% at a high of $2.84. A lot of instant millionaires made on this one

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8086/8529401661_bb51bbdf03_b.jpg

GQBalla
03-04-2013, 10:50 PM
holy crap.

revelations
03-05-2013, 08:15 AM
AAPL stock is in trouble. It was making new lows as the markets went up a touch recently.

freshvibes
03-05-2013, 10:23 AM
ACUR was a beautiful text book former runner play. Up 75% today. It makes a big run every time it comes out of consolidation. Very low risk, high reward play.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEmwmmRCcAEdDbs.png:large

dawerks
03-05-2013, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by revelations
AAPL stock is in trouble. It was making new lows as the markets went up a touch recently.

I was going to pull the trigger today. Really (like the last 10 days, really!).

It shot up, still on the sidelines.