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DJ Lazy
01-20-2004, 07:07 PM
Ok so I am having a "discussion" with someone I know on what cars are better...

My List:
Paganni Zonda
Koenigsegg
Lamborghini Murcielago
Ferrari Enzo

Her List:
69 camaro 454 big block
69 GTO judge
72 camaro
78 Trans am 400 big block

Now she is argues that her list of 4 is better than my list of 4..
Now needless to say I am bias against Domestics... But still :rofl:

Vote what you think is the better list. Consider Overall Performance, Handling, Appearance, Resale Value, and anything else you can think of.

And also explain your vote.:)

Cheers.

04blackMAX
01-20-2004, 07:09 PM
you cant even comepare super cars with classics

DJ Lazy
01-20-2004, 07:11 PM
well thats whats happening.. :thumbsup:

1badPT
01-20-2004, 07:20 PM
Preview of the rest of this thread...


Apples are better than Oranges!

No they're not

Yes they are

No they're not

Yes they are

No they're not

Yes they are

No they're not

Yes they are

No they're not

Yes they are
Whatever, swap whatever car names/manufacturers you want in the first one. People like the cars they like and there doesn't have to be logic or reason behind it - one car isn't better than another. You like the current day supercars, your friend obviously likes Classic Muscle Cars. You both win. Or lose. I've lost the last few minutes of my life on this thread, can I have them back?

:closed:

air_mikey
01-20-2004, 07:23 PM
^^ well everyone knows that oranges are better then apples. :thumbsup:

1badPT
01-20-2004, 07:24 PM
:eek: bs!

Apples are where its at!

Seanith
01-20-2004, 07:27 PM
Your friends list pretty much.. sucks.

air_mikey
01-20-2004, 07:31 PM
:bullshit:

kevie88
01-20-2004, 07:36 PM
heh.. sell the Enzo and buy her entire list..lol


Then light the 78 TA on fire in front of her :rofl:

Why anyone would consider ANY car from 1978 a classic is beyond me!

Seanith
01-20-2004, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by kevie88

Why anyone would consider ANY car from 1978 a classic is beyond me!

Thats probably the kind of car year she was conceived or born in! :eek: :nut:

Khyron
01-20-2004, 07:59 PM
Mind you, if you each have to suck dick until you earn enough money to buy the cars on your lists, she'll win.

Khyron

/////AMG
01-20-2004, 08:04 PM
Pagani Zonda
Koenigsegg

Those cars could rape all her cars on her list. Especially the new Koenigsegg. Yes her cars are legends and classics, however your list is exotics super cars.

Dj_Stylz
01-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Whats a Zonda?

/////AMG
01-20-2004, 08:11 PM
Pagani Zonda C12

http://cinek.poludnie.net/az/zonda1.jpg
http://cinek.poludnie.net/az/zonda2.jpg
http://cinek.poludnie.net/az/zonda3.jpg


When Pagani released the Zonda C12 in 1999, it instantly shot to cult status.

Like many Italian exotics, the look and styling cues were as much a part of the attraction as the thumping Mercedes-sourced 6.0-litre V12. But when pricing starts at $580,000, it's not the kind of car that the average pay packet takes care of.

New for 2002, this is only Pagani's third car ever produced. The first was the C12 in 99, soon followed by the C12-S, which used the larger AMG-tuned Mercedes V12, and now the 7.3-litre V12-engined Zonda is here.

New features over the base model C1 - if you can call it that - include the larger 7.3-litre AMG-tuned engine, new OZ Racing wheels, Brembo brakes, a revised air intake system plus TCS and ABS, just in case you get a little overzealous with the 'fast' pedal.

With low weight, a mid-mounted engine (located just behind the driver), aerodynamically adjusted, wind tunnel-derived styling, and a 7291cc engine that grinds out a prodigious 414kW @ 5900rpm, the new Zonda is no slacker.

This 400+kW is transferred to the rear wheels via an AP twin-plate clutch connected to a six-speed transmission, and while that's more power than most would know what to do with, it's the 750Nm of torque occuring @ 4050rpm that helps propel the 2002 Pagani to 100km/h in 3.6 seconds.

That makes the Zonda more than half a second quicker than its V12 competitor, the 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello, which does the same sprint in 4.2 seconds.

At 355km/h, the new Zonda isn't for the faint of heart. It'd be perfect for circle work, though.

Getting to such giddy speeds is just as much due to the special aerodynmics and body styling as it is to the thumping Mercedes engine. The deep chin-spoiler, low side skirts and special rear diffuser all contribute to a low drag co-efficient.

With double wishbones-type suspension at all four corners, the Zonda is said to be much more user-friendly than the McLaren F1, for instance, because it has longer suspension travel, allowing for 'almost' everyday usage.

While the latest Pagani's major drawcard would have to be its gargantuan 7.3-litre V12, there's a lot of other aspects to get excited about. The only downside to the car would be the asking price of just under 600,000 bones and of course the on-going insurance costs. We shudder to think...

But it's cars like this that bring a smile to the face of many young boys, regardless of whether or not they'll get to drive one. The Pagani marque is noted for its solid build quality and finish, which many exoctic/rare supercars often come under criticism for. For this reason and many others, Pagani looks like selling quite a few new Zondas - in the vicinity of 30-40 per year - and the Modena-based manufacturer has a healthy future ahead.

http://sport.auto.free.fr/photoautre/pagani/zonda/2001_pagani_zonda_c12s_02_m.jpg

04blackMAX
01-20-2004, 08:14 PM
this thread is kinda retarded...i mean its like me making a thread, what would u take...50 bucks ro 5 million......geee tough one

Ben
01-20-2004, 08:28 PM
each car, both the Detroit Muscle and the Supercars have their niche, different strokes for different folks. People need to learn to appreciate both. Its just like the wars that always emerge with domestic vs import and "displacement" arguements.

FallenAngel
01-20-2004, 08:45 PM
Oranges!

...and Koenigsegg is badass.

cman
01-21-2004, 01:12 PM
oranges, and yea you cant even compare those its just unfair performance wise...but like other people said, all personal liking

sputnik
01-21-2004, 01:16 PM
the friends list can be acheived by almost anyone... $160,000 for all 4 if you buy museum low mileage creampuffs...

$160,000 will get you laughed at by the dealers on your list

apples and oranges.

Bruce Chan
01-21-2004, 01:44 PM
I have no ideas why have to compare ? they both are car. For example, somebody love "Initial D", AE86 or AE85.....but why? is that because the cartoon, they are old? they are classical? they have great feeling for driver? they are FR car? i think they are both very beautiful car. In fact, 69 camaro 454 big block,69 GTO judge,72 camaro,78 Trans am 400 big block are very good taste when you look at them....:drool: what are a history story. they are very difficult to keep until now. The engine sound must be very nice too. if you have money, you may not be able to buy one as new.:rofl:

JAYMEZ
01-21-2004, 02:39 PM
Lazy list !!

EK 2.0
01-21-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by 1badPT
:eek: bs!

Apples are where its at!


How can you ALL compare ONE type of Orange...to like 3000 types of Apples??

You KNOW the apples have it...so stop frontin...

And like was stated...both lists have their ups and downs...

benyl
01-21-2004, 03:06 PM
Screw it, I like Bananas.

You can't compare the two lists. Forget about the age difference of the cars, you are still comparing cars that are mostly hand made, and cars that are mass produced (in comparison).

It is like comparing the latest Athlon 64 bit computer to "Big Blue" (or whatever the super computer is called).

cujo_cjc
01-21-2004, 05:09 PM
List 1!!!
List 2 is alright...but I like modern sports cars better :)

hjr
01-21-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by benyl
Screw it, I like Bananas.
you all should know, melons are the money fruit!

air_mikey
01-21-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by benyl
Screw it, I like Bananas.
lol
"go banana!"

R-Audi
01-21-2004, 07:39 PM
How about Mandarin Oranges? I really like those...:whocares:

Kamen
01-21-2004, 08:02 PM
Just agree with her and do it IDB already.

finboy
01-21-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by air_mikey

lol
"go banana!"

LMAO, Ralph ownz all

Chester
01-21-2004, 11:12 PM
oranges:werd:

James
01-22-2004, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by sputnik
the friends list can be acheived by almost anyone... $160,000 for all 4 if you buy museum low mileage creampuffs...

$160,000 will get you laughed at by the dealers on your list

apples and oranges.


:werd: :D....pretty much what i was gonna say! not even a comparison, of course the old cars are nice, but its not even the same kind of class, period, end of discussion, done.

DJ Lazy
01-22-2004, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by CycloneAWD
And like was stated...both lists have their ups and downs...

What are the downs of my list???:confused:


And I can't remember who mentioned the "IDB".. but this isn't really the type of girl I go for... not even IDB.... :thumbsdow

NickGT
01-22-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by DJ Lazy


What are the downs of my list???:confused:




Price tag, Insurance Rates, Repair bills, Speeding tickets :rofl:

But if you can afford them, im sure you wouldn't care about the above.. But for the average guy...