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[Xtrema]

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Haha. The Chinese steal IP at the port during the import process. It doesn’t matter where it is made, the will reverse engineer it before it gets to the assembly factory.

When I worked for a fracking company, this iwhat the Chinese did when the fracking company entered the Chinese market. The tools spent months and months in customs waiting to be released. Clones came out soon after they were released.

Going into China just gives Chinese companies a huge leg up in the engineering department.

They cloned it down the the company logo that Calgary fracking truck company got called for support when they have made no sales to China.

The clones of Tesla are already plenty and out. Once local staff knows all the building secret, Tesla will have 0 tech advantage. Much like Huawei keep cloning Samsung and Apple products, has now beaten both imcumbents, whoever stolen all IP from Tesla first will kill Tesla.

https://electrek.co/2018/04/10/ev-st...conn-xiaopeng/

Tesla has an uphill battle in China too:



But this is fine for Elon, his mission isn't profit but bring EV to masses he succeeded.

Come on sup, stop fighting so hard. Referral program is no more.

If Q4 is indication, if they can deliver 5000/week in Q1, they will probably go back to a loss.

[blownz]

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Service is still fucked. It's nowhere near the production and sale ramp and they need a lot of investment to keep up.

Do you know if service is bad in Calgary? In Edmonton the service guy is really slow right now. Like days straight with nothing to do. So service is really good right now (assuming your aren't waiting on parts...) Granted most 3's in the city are still really new and haven't needed much work.

[Xtrema]

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Do you know if service is bad in Calgary? In Edmonton the service guy is really slow right now. Like days straight with nothing to do. So service is really good right now (assuming your aren't waiting on parts...) Granted most 3's in the city are still really new and haven't needed much work.

Model 3 doesn't even come back to service centers until they hit 2 year mark. Unlike 3 and X, recommended schedule is every 2 years/48,000km.

Given most Model 3 owners are only 6-7 months into their ownership, it'll be awhile before they head back unless there are issues or missing pieces on delivery.

[Maxt]

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Haha. The Chinese steal IP at the port during the import process. It doesn’t matter where it is made, the will reverse engineer it before it gets to the assembly factory.

When I worked for a fracking company, this iwhat the Chinese did when the fracking company entered the Chinese market. The tools spent months and months in customs waiting to be released. Clones came out soon after they were released.

Going into China just gives Chinese companies a huge leg up in the engineering department.

My brother in law has the same issues with cnc production machinery shipped to China. The only way they slow the cloning process, is the machine gets shipped without software, then gets loaded upon commissioning of the machine. Once it is operational, they know they have about 3 months to come out with the next better machine.

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From the owners I know here, they haven’t sold anywhere enough Model 3s to have service be a problem.

Parts are still a problem though. Tesla logistics for parts are also terrible. Go to your authorized Tesla repair shop in town and ask them to see the wrong Tesla parts storage haha.

[rx7boi]

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Buy under 300 sell over 350. Rinse and repeat.

Edit - just to be clear I’ve stopped trading Tesla in the middle of Q3.

Question for you. If it's been volatile so far, why stop now?

Curious minds want to know.

[Buster]

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Question for you. If it's been volatile so far, why stop now?

Curious minds want to know.

It's like the giggle-fest TA analysis over in the crypto thread...if things are going down long term, it's much harder to make money. You still can capture the ups. It's not quite as bad with Tesla, since you can short it easier. But shorting the dips and then trying to time the blips up is harder than simply buying stock on dips.

[msommers]

More importantly...what are you doing at 4:30am on a Saturday?!

[Xtrema]

VW EA is buying Tesla batteries for charging stations
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1PT1NK

[Sugarphreak]

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[mazdavirgin]

60k car and you can't open the doors in the winter?

[killramos]

It’s the future. Car is just telling you to stay home.

[supe]

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60k car and you can't open the doors in the winter?

Odd how you think this is specific to Tesla.

Random googe search:
http://blog.mercedesbenzraleigh.com/...t-do-i-do-now/

I left mine outdoors for several hours at a time over the weekend with no issues.

I'm guessing you'll face this issue more if you park outdoors overnight.

[Xtrema]

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60k car and you can't open the doors in the winter?

This has been happening on Model S and X for almost forever. Even worst on those because it's motorized. At least with Model 3, you can just pound on it with force to free the handle.

You are not supposed to park Tesla's outside if you have an garage. The cold will kill the battery and make charging inefficient. People who has a garage but decided to park it outside is just asking for drama.

[Buster]

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More importantly...what are you doing at 4:30am on a Saturday?!

Up early in the eastern timezone, ha

[JRSC00LUDE]

If you question Tesla's financials you know nothing about financial reporting, if you question their construction methodology you know nothing about building cars, if you question their poor build quality you're just a hater. All hail Tesla or GTFO.

Yawn. Nothing new to see here.

[Xtrema]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/tesl...5-a-share.html

Tesla bought Maxwell tech today.

Future isn't batteries, it's ultracapacitors.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/tesl...5-a-share.html

Tesla bought Maxwell tech today.

Future isn't batteries, it's ultracapacitors.

That is cool.

[supe]

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/tesl...5-a-share.html

Tesla bought Maxwell tech today.

Future isn't batteries, it's ultracapacitors.

Actually it might still be batteries, although it could also be ultracapacitors, Maxwell does both. This was an interesting acquisition because we don't really know what Tesla's play is but Maxwell recently developed a new battery technology called Dry Battery Electrode. Basically longer life, higher energy densities and less reliant on rare earth resources.

Check page 10 for a summary:

http://s21.q4cdn.com/566123494/files...rence-Deck.pdf

Here is a paper on the tech:

http://www.powersourcesconference.co...t/docs/3-1.pdf

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Ultracapacitors are also the bridge for fuel cells especially for performance vehicles as fuel cells are brutal at high energy outputs compared to batteries.

As for cold weather, Calgary isn’t too bad for freezing doors. It’s high humidity climates where temperatures fluctuate above and below freezing where it’s a problem. Shit melts and seeps between the door handle gap which then freezes tight overnight. Model S and X aren’t a problem because it’s motorized and punches out the ice. Regular handles aren’t much of a problem because you have leverage on the handle to break the ice. Model 3 is problematic because you have no leverage to move the flush handles when it’s frozen.