$30 barrel oil?

[you&me]

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On top of this, up until about 2-3 years ago, there still really wasn't much of an issue besides eco-terrorists and the MSM supporting them just pumping out garbage. Nothing had really changed, there wasn't much to fight with, no amount of propaganda opposing eco weenies is going to convince them their idiots.

I think the biggest problem were activist ceo's themselves being put in charge of these companies and then starting to cater to the envirotards. That was the beginning of the end.

Which O&G companies have CEOs that have started catering to the envirotards?

[Misterman]

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On top of this, up until about 2-3 years ago, there still really wasn't much of an issue besides eco-terrorists and the MSM supporting them just pumping out garbage. Nothing had really changed, there wasn't much to fight with, no amount of propaganda opposing eco weenies is going to convince them their idiots.

I think the biggest problem were activist ceo's themselves being put in charge of these companies and then starting to cater to the envirotards. That was the beginning of the end.

You don't need to convince them they're idiots. The fact that they are idiots is how they were so easily influenced by pop culture to be enviro weenies to begin with. And as such they can be influenced the other way. Us common sense, fact based, logic types, keep thinking in terms of needing to educate these idiots. But they can't be educated.............. because they are idiots. They don't care about the facts or reality, they just want a cause to belong to, it helps shield their insecurity.

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Which O&G companies have CEOs that have started catering to the envirotards?

Little known company called Shell......... They are now the biggest energy company in the world ahead of Exxon. That's one easy example.

[killramos]

I got a kick out of statoil taking the oil out of their name

[BavarianBeast]

Qatar just left OPEC, albeit a small oil producer but major gas producer. Does anyone think OPEC could fall apart over the next couple of years?

What do you guys think these trains will do for our pricing differential? Is the extra little capacity enough to stimulate some price change?

[killramos]

Trains are a fart in the tub, apportionment on the other hand essentially solves the problem overnight.

[Misterman]

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Qatar just left OPEC, albeit a small oil producer but major gas producer. Does anyone think OPEC could fall apart over the next couple of years?

What do you guys think these trains will do for our pricing differential? Is the extra little capacity enough to stimulate some price change?

Trains might help a tiny bit just for the ability to move more product. But it still leaves us only the US as a customer. The only hope for survival is to get the stuff to water so we can open up new markets.

[ExtraSlow]

The number of rail cars that will be retired next year is pretty similar to the number Rachel is buying. This isn't going to make much of a difference at all. I do however hope they are painted with the Alberta flag. Would look badass.

[bourge73]

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Trains might help a tiny bit just for the ability to move more product. But it still leaves us only the US as a customer. The only hope for survival is to get the stuff to water so we can open up new markets.

But the trains do go to the coast too ?

[Mogg]

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The number of rail cars that will be retired next year is pretty similar to the number Rachel is buying. This isn't going to make much of a difference at all. I do however hope they are painted with the Alberta flag. Would look badass.

That's an interesting point I have never thought of. Is this from a credible source or a guess?

[Misterman]

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But the trains do go to the coast too ?

And where is there a crude ship loading terminal over there?

[Mogg]

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And where is there a crude ship loading terminal over there?

If we could get it out to New Brunswick to get refined it would be a start.

[bourge73]

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And where is there a crude ship loading terminal over there?

Ever heard of Irving ? Is such a loading terminal so impossible ? ( if there isn’t one .. can’t one be built? )

[90_Shelby]

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But the trains do go to the coast too ?

Suncor transports oil to their Burrard terminal by rail currently and I'm sure there are others.

[bourge73]

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Suncor transports oil to their Burrard terminal by rail currently and I'm sure there are others.

Wow finally a helpful, positive , non complaining/bitching , arguing just for the sake of arguing post. Thanks 90_Shelby

[Misterman]

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Ever heard of Irving ? Is such a loading terminal so impossible ? ( if there isn’t one .. can’t one be built? )

Irving is a refinery. The wrong coast is a hell of a lot farther to go, which greatly increases rail transportation costs. But sure, anything is better than nothing. Building a loading terminal? That's a massively expensive undertaking to support the small amount of volume rail is likely to move for us. Logistically I'm not sure something like that would make sense.

[suntan]

I can tell you that Irving would love to have some Alberta oil out east. Source: Irving is one of my clients.

[killramos]

Irving can feel free to throw their weight around out there to get a pipeline built then.

[ExtraSlow]

Irving has no pull in Quebec or Ontario where it really is needed.

[suntan]

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Irving can feel free to throw their weight around out there to get a pipeline built then.

They've quietly lobbied the gov't before. They do realize that Trudeau is a total dimwit. He also doesn't make any policy decisions for the party.

[Buster]

Hold on. Does ANYONE think that Trudeau is making any sort of actual decisions?