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    ^You mean 15 years of Civil War?
    We have pronounced different ethnic groups like Indians, French Canadians and new immigrants. We are Yugoslavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    The USA is close and accessible for motivated individuals.
    Is it though?

    Pretty sure first world white people are bottom of the list on the green card availability

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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis88 View Post
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    Is it though?

    Pretty sure first world white people are bottom of the list on the green card availability
    If you have no skills and money, I agree it's difficult. I don't think that's true for Beyonders. Although I will admit that I don't plan on moving my family to the USA. I personally find that less appealing than staying in Alberta.
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    In case you didn't notice, this is already underway.

    CPP discussions, provincial legislation to prevent federal involvement in funding projects, a general rancor between the provincial leaders and the feds, provincial parties (NDP) openly talking about "re-branding" away from their federal brethren.

    Separatism was never going to be a defined moment. It was always going to be about chipping away at how Albertans perceive Canada, and how much Albertan politicians were going to begin legislatively, judicially and constitutionally challenging the power of the federal gov't. Quebec has been doing this forever, of course, but they never had the economic capacity or true autonomy (economically and culturally) to pull it off.

    The flashy parts of the process will be the odd constitutional crisis, or challenge. But separatism can also look like a deconstruction of the federal power-of-the-purse and more power to the provinces. Canada may look more like a Schengen Area - and frankly given that the country is shaped roughly like a piece of linguini, that's what we should be doing. No reasonable person would recommend a governance/democratic structure like Canada has today. The only thing that really knits Canada together is nostalgia. And hockey. And both of those are worth around the square root of one of my poops.

    90% of Alberta's trade should be with the US. Directly. The rest of Canada should merely be white noise. Even shipping our good to the east parts of Canada can go through the US. Our current position is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    The flashy parts of the process will be the odd constitutional crisis, or challenge. But separatism can also look like a deconstruction of the federal power-of-the-purse and more power to the provinces. .
    Provinces are the problem. Worst administrative area in the country. No reasonable person would recommend a governance structure like Canada has today, but only a moron would suggest a solution is to give more power to the most incompetent and obstructive level of that structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    the most incompetent and obstructive level of that structure.
    No one takes you seriously.

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    No kidding. If it wasn't for our provincial leaders over the years we'd be in an even more ridiculous position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis88 View Post
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    Is it though?

    Pretty sure first world white people are bottom of the list on the green card availability
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    If you have no skills and money, I agree it's difficult. I don't think that's true for Beyonders.

    Just to clarify, skills means specific post secondary and substantial experience with corporate sponsorship, and money means millions.

    I've looked into this in depth and applied to immigrate (the approval took 9 years).
    I can eat more hot wings than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompletelyNumb View Post
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    Just to clarify, skills means specific post secondary and substantial experience with corporate sponsorship, and money means millions.

    I've looked into this in depth and applied to immigrate (the approval took 9 years).
    We talking about working in the USA?

    TN Visa is the easiest option and costs almost nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    We talking about working in the USA?

    TN Visa is the easiest option and costs almost nothing.
    TN isn't an immigration visa. Good for the short term but it doesn't offer any pathway to a PR

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    My wife is American and I am still dumb enough to be riding this shit out... What's that say about me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    TN isn't an immigration visa. Good for the short term but it doesn't offer any pathway to a PR
    Same with the L1, that's what I have...no path to residency

    I think I would be eligible for an EB visa, but current company won't do that for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirebob View Post
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    My wife is American and I am still dumb enough to be riding this shit out... What's that say about me?
    Probably that you get laid regularly enough to keep your blood pressure down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    TN isn't an immigration visa. Good for the short term but it doesn't offer any pathway to a PR
    What if you walk across the border seeking asylum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    What if you walk across the border seeking asylum?
    We're on the wrong border
    I can eat more hot wings than you.

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    I look Mexican enough, I think a vacation to Mexico is in order and then join the Guatemalans.

    Check and mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    ... join the Guatemalans.

    Check and mate.
    You're going to mate with Latinos. Refer to abortion debate thread. They don't debate abortion, at all. They just don't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    In case you didn't notice, this is already underway.

    CPP discussions, provincial legislation to prevent federal involvement in funding projects, a general rancor between the provincial leaders and the feds, provincial parties (NDP) openly talking about "re-branding" away from their federal brethren.

    Separatism was never going to be a defined moment. It was always going to be about chipping away at how Albertans perceive Canada, and how much Albertan politicians were going to begin legislatively, judicially and constitutionally challenging the power of the federal gov't. Quebec has been doing this forever, of course, but they never had the economic capacity or true autonomy (economically and culturally) to pull it off.

    The flashy parts of the process will be the odd constitutional crisis, or challenge. But separatism can also look like a deconstruction of the federal power-of-the-purse and more power to the provinces. Canada may look more like a Schengen Area - and frankly given that the country is shaped roughly like a piece of linguini, that's what we should be doing. No reasonable person would recommend a governance/democratic structure like Canada has today. The only thing that really knits Canada together is nostalgia. And hockey. And both of those are worth around the square root of one of my poops.

    90% of Alberta's trade should be with the US. Directly. The rest of Canada should merely be white noise. Even shipping our good to the east parts of Canada can go through the US. Our current position is ridiculous.
    This is a structured approach that I predominantly support and I am baffled to find myself approving of how Danielle Smith is executing this, thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    You're going to mate with Latinos. Refer to abortion debate thread. They don't debate abortion, at all. They just don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    only a moron would suggest a solution is to give more power to the most incompetent and obstructive level of that structure.

    Hey bud, you said it. You and Toma are the only ones advocating more power to your abusive, incompetent, and obstructive overlords in the Federal Government.



    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    We talking about working in the USA?

    TN Visa is the easiest option and costs almost nothing.
    Which still isn't citizenship, and can be revoked at any time. But the main important part, is that there is whole host of skilled work that doesn't fall on the T1N list. So even though you might be in the top 1% income bracket as a skilled worker in Canada, you could still require 4 years of school to be eligible for anything.

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