Yeah, fat bike was better for first tracks at moose for sure… but after it’s all packed down and there is a base I much prefer the skinny studs, when it’s loose climbing the float works against you and you end up sitting there spinning.. which is I guess a benefit that you can sit there spinning without falling over, but if there is something under the sugar/fluff/etc to cut into, then I find the real bike still wins, probably geo related too as it’s pretty obvious the two are slightly different