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[supe]

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Well these dumb cars are starting to creep into my head again. Can anyone comment on the range in cold weather?
Will the new Model 3 LR do ski trips without worry?
Model Y is also tempting since i'm a sucker for hatchbacks and wagons.

This has been my rough estimate on range loss is you lose percentage wise whatever the temperature is in celcius. So if its -10 you lose about 10%, -30 about 30%. Lots of other factors, speed, elevation, even headwind all matter too, speed is the big one.

[benyl]

Update on the cost of driving a Model 3 Performance so far.

Since new, I am running an average of 230W/km. Based on my loaded electricity rate of $0.17 last month, that's about 4 cents per km. Car has 5000 km on it now. $200 to go that distance. Pretty cheap.

[rage2]

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Update on the cost of driving a Model 3 Performance so far.

Since new, I am running an average of 230W/km. Based on my loaded electricity rate of $0.17 last month, that's about 4 cents per km. Car has 5000 km on it now. $200 to go that distance. Pretty cheap.

I know you were bitching about losing 50% range when the weather was -20ish, how bad has it been during the milder weather the last few weeks?

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I priced out a max perf, all options Model S .... about 160,000 CAD .... Even the BASE model is 115,000 CAD.

That makes no sense if someone is trying to save cash VS an ICE vehicle.

[killramos]

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I priced out a max perf, all options Model S .... about 160,000 CAD ....

That’s a lot less than they used to be

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I priced out a max perf, all options Model S .... about 160,000 CAD ....

It used to be $215k + tax.

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that still makes no sense if one is considering moving away from ICE vehicles because of 'cost' savings .....

[killramos]

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that still makes no sense if one is considering moving away from ICE vehicles because of 'cost' savings .....

They never did. And electricity sure isn’t getting any cheaper.

[sabad66]

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that still makes no sense if one is considering moving away from ICE vehicles because of 'cost' savings .....

The Model S is a pretty high end car that competes with luxury vehicles. Are you mixing it up with the Model 3 that is their entry level model?

[benyl]

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I know you were bitching about losing 50% range when the weather was -20ish, how bad has it been during the milder weather the last few weeks?

Maybe 20% less.

There are so many variables. I think the heater uses 4kwh on average. Then the motors will run super inefficient to heat the battery if cold soaked.

When it was -20, I was getting the “regen limited” message constantly, even when freshly off the charger. The last couple of weeks, not at all.

I don’t think I’ll ever go back to an ICE car.

I was hoping to get the EQC in early 2020, but that’s been delayed a year.

[ExtraSlow]

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that still makes no sense if one is considering moving away from ICE vehicles because of 'cost' savings .....

Well, not a Tesla, but the best selling EV in Canada, the Mitsubishi outlander phev might. It's $44k, and very few compromises as a family vehicle.

[The_Rural_Juror]

In my opinion, hybrids are pretty pointless with the rise of EVs.

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In my opinion, hybrids are pretty pointless with the rise of EVs.

Meh, I road trip a ton and prefer hybrid over EV. I don’t have to slow down, adjust climate control, or driving style to conserve power for long distance trips. EVs are a sure winner in the city tho.

[Jlude]

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I priced out a max perf, all options Model S .... about 160,000 CAD .... Even the BASE model is 115,000 CAD.

That makes no sense if someone is trying to save cash VS an ICE vehicle.

I paid $152k for my S without Ludicrous mode, and shortly afterwards they updated the pricing and offerings. All options would have been over $200k at that time. Pricing is getting better across the board.

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I get it if you are paying for performance of the car - but if I had to make a financial-based choice, a high end Camry would be on my list over a 115,000 CAD base model S, without question.

[speedog]

Lucid Air, longer range at a better price than the Model S, https://lucidmotors.com/

[Buster]

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Lucid Air, longer range at a better price than the Model S, https://lucidmotors.com/

It's uglier than a Tesla...remarkable achievement.

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It's uglier than a Tesla...remarkable achievement.

In my lifetime, I would like to be able to 'do' this in the back seat (without a driver)..... we just need (embedded, radar reflective 'cat eyes') smart roads to be implemented first.



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[ExtraSlow]

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It's uglier than a Tesla...remarkable achievement.

No bro, listen :

SPACE
UNCOMPROMISED Luxury
The Lucid Air is a marvel of proportion and form. Freed from the spatial requirements of an internal combustion engine, the Air achieves an expansive full-size interior within a midsize exterior, delivering sublime comfort in a new luxury class

[The_Rural_Juror]

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In my lifetime, I would like to be able to 'do' this in the back seat (without a driver)..... we just need (embedded, radar reflective 'cat eyes') smart roads to be implemented first.



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Not in the back seat, but someone...err couple has already done this in a Tesla. Look in one of the "tubes". So I was told by ExtraSlow.