The government does not get any data. Apple and Google built this specifically so governments can’t use it for surveillance.
https://www.alberta.ca/ab-trace-together-faq.aspx#toc-3
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The government does not get any data. Apple and Google built this specifically so governments can’t use it for surveillance.
https://www.alberta.ca/ab-trace-together-faq.aspx#toc-3
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Chemtrails are proof they already have surveillance
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I'm certain there are entire government agencies fascinated by your life.Originally Posted by Tik-Tok
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It's not the government spying I'm overly concerned about, it's the government ineptitude.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
See previous instances of "lost" laptops with Canadian medical and financial data on them.
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Our government does not spy on its citizens - they get the UK or the USA to do it for them thanks to the 5 eyes agreement.
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I'm not too concerned who is using my data to try and sell me shit. But I did find this post kind of funny.
"Hey guys it's completely fine. The universe champions of spying tag teamed this, so it's guaranteed not to spy on us"
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I wouldn't call the Google and Apple the universe champions of spying. I propose that Facebook and MySpace are worse. We already killed off one, but the other is stubborn.
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Not worry about tracking. Worry about battery drain on Android as it stays in background.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
iOS tho, you just keep app on foreground when you go out.
It's like vaccine, you need a sizable amount of people using it to be effective. I doubt we will hit that point.
I rather the app based on GPS and telling you where a place has been infected and when. So businesses will do their best to not get on that shit list.
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis is because the AB app isn’t using the google/Apple framework. That’s not out for another 2 weeks and requires OS upgrades. Nobody with an iPhone is going to leave their phone unlocked and running in the foreground while in their pocket. Using an iPhone for anything else backgrounds the app and has similar issues. The data collected with this app won’t be compatible with the data under the Apple/google framework.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This is a great example of being first not being the best. Will also be interesting in seeing how Google rolls it out with so much Android fragmentation.
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I have gone above and beyond what I should rightfully have to do to protect my good name
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"Face the virus like a man, damn it, not like a little boy." - Bolsonaro.
Cocoa $11,000 per tonne.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-virus-program
China, as a country, is a gargantuan piece of shit.
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Yeah but the author doesn't use his real name. Therefore every word in the article is completely fake...............This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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no no no, only MAIN STREAM media articles, allowed...... pseudo names automatically make the article invalid!!!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
(as if a name makes any difference to the accuracy of an article)
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Ivandjiiski and Tyler Durden are totally legit, everyone knows that. Come on
you REALLY have to pick and choose what you think is valid on ZH. But it's useful for those things that seem reasonable.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Definitely - ZH is about 95% BS, but the Bulgarians seem to get it right on occasion. I like how they ask questions about everything (even though the conclusions might be wrong).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I dont care if the authors' name is Chicken Little, as long as they provide sources (which they usually do) - the veracity of the opinions or facts can be looked into deeper.
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Haha yeah, it's a valid point. Although Apple is generally really good about not collecting data and keeping everything on the device, as opposed to Google who collects everything and does it all in the cloud.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Honestly though, if anyone says they built something with privacy protection and that they can't access your data, people should generally ignore those claims anyway. I've been involved with countless products where the product managers and developers make this claim, often well-meaning, when it's trivially circumventable. And the truth is if they wanted to track someone, it's a minor modification to their database query and the protections are just smoke and mirrors so they can say they did something without actually having to solve the difficult engineering problem of providing services to users you can't identify.
And as Tik-Tok said, most of the time, even if they have good intentions, it's incompetence or neglect that leaks your data everywhere anyway.
Fun fact, the US and Canada have been using contact tracing (they called it contact chaining) to find suspected terrorists and people associated with them for many years now. They don't need an app on your phone to do it, your cell provider knows where you are within a few feet at all times. So the intel agencies pick one terrorist and watch when they go somewhere and stop moving. If it's a crowded place, they pull all of the phones in the vicinity. Repeat that a few times over a few trips and compare which phones always seem to be in the same place at the same time to weed out the random traffic. Then they add those "suspects" to monitor them as well.
It results in a ton of false positives, and I'm pretty sure this method will have the same problem but worse, because it's meant to identify every phone your phone went near.
For those with a more-than-layman's education on biochemistry, the MedCram series on COVID is truly fantastic and is providing a very updated state of the art on our knowledge. (Hint, COVID is barely a lung disease at all).
Start with the ones early in April.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG-...bbwDDXgXXypARQ
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I am a the layest layperson and have been watching MedCram for months. Dude is good at explaining.
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