Pls Need help - can't lower my Heart Rate (was at hospital)

[vengie]

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Ive trained someone with similar issues to yours. My advice



PS sauna doesn't detox shit and it elevates your heartrate. Avoid it! If you want to detox start drinking tons of water and add alot of veggies into your diet!!!

Infrared Sauna, yes they do aid with detoxification.

[scboss]

Ive read tons of scientific studies showing that its very minimal when it is the only thing being done and as always following a proper diet is gonna be the true answer.
I have been hard pressed to find any real research studies that show detox results purely off the infrared sauna and will continue to see the word help and aid but zero proof.
I have also not found a study where it actually showed someone being detoxed without any other factors (diet, exercise etc).

This has come up in my field alot and im not against it at all as it does have other benefits. I could be wrong and if you do find something with studies backing it i would love to expand my knowledge on it, so send it!

Back to why i told him to avoid it. High temperatures makes your heart rate go up creating more circulation which is a PRO in most cases for heart health, but in his case its a massive CON. He needs to avoid anything that will do this period until he finds out the root cause.

[Buster]

haven't heard from the OP since this morning.

Ded?

[r3ccOs]

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haven't heard from the OP since this morning.

Ded?

Nope... still here, decided to take off the watch, but I am definitely running like 10BP minimum higher than norm.

Its all strange, but you guys are right, along with dehydration, stress/anxiety, a low BP condition (lightheaded from lifting to overhead).. maybe there is an element of infection.

According to Doc, no signs of infection but I do still have the reminisce of bronchitis which I just went over my stats over the last 2 weeks, I also kinda had an elevated HR (not quite as high though).

I do find when my HR is high, I can tell as I feel as though its hard to concentrate and I am getting winded doing the easiest of tasks

[Buster]

The hiv?

[vengie]

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Ive read tons of scientific studies showing that its very minimal when it is the only thing being done and as always following a proper diet is gonna be the true answer.
I have been hard pressed to find any real research studies that show detox results purely off the infrared sauna and will continue to see the word help and aid but zero proof.
I have also not found a study where it actually showed someone being detoxed without any other factors (diet, exercise etc).

This has come up in my field alot and im not against it at all as it does have other benefits. I could be wrong and if you do find something with studies backing it i would love to expand my knowledge on it, so send it!

Back to why i told him to avoid it. High temperatures makes your heart rate go up creating more circulation which is a PRO in most cases for heart health, but in his case its a massive CON. He needs to avoid anything that will do this period until he finds out the root cause.

Google Scholar
Infrared Sauna

You’ll find a ton of papers

[scboss]

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Google Scholar
Infrared Sauna

You’ll find a ton of papers

search infrared sauna detox

like i said man. Potential. Help. Aid. With no proof.

"Concerning using these saunas to eliminate toxins, fat also hinders the practicality of the IR sauna’s application as a detoxification device. Although the process of pulling water out could be beneficial in terms of excreting toxins through your sweat, this cannot happen unless fat is also breaking down. Because the science hasn't shown that IR saunas induce fat breakdown or mobilization, it’s unlikely they cause detoxification. And why, you might ask? Because the largest storage place for toxins is fat cells, and these cells don’t just release toxins when the temperature increases; they have to be breaking down first. Thus, it’s unlikely (and unproven) that toxins are released by sitting in an IR sauna."


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here is the link to article
https://www.elitefts.com/education/i...-or-fantastic/

Like i said man im not opposed to it because it has alot of health benefits, but not enough research has been done to actually show the effects with the sauna by itself when it comes to detox. We will just have to agree to disagree.

[ExtraSlow]

Any human designed device or process to "detox" is bullshit. You won't change my mind.

[bigbadboss101]

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articl...ush-your-lymph

https://www.gaiam.com/blogs/discover...g-and-immunity

Drink lot of water, eat whole food, exercise, be mindful. Perhaps yoga or Qi Gong.

[r3ccOs]

Update today - heart rate is fluctuating better but my resting isn't near what it was.

That said after spending about a cumulation of probably closer to 30 hours in a sauna over the course of a month - its going to take some time to rehydrate, and hopefully no long term damage.

Still feeling a little un-easy from time to time and hopefully I feel better soon

[rvd]

Drink up. https://readynutrition.com/resources...ders_21062011/

[r3ccOs]

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Drink up. https://readynutrition.com/resources...ders_21062011/

my aunt who is a pharmacist who read through my FB post said.. drink as much electrolytes, eat bananas and take magnesium as much as you can tolerate for the next few days.

I've been working from home from a month, and due to that, there really has been no added salts as most of everything we eat is from scratch. Couple that with a daily routine of working out, some cardio and an hour of sauna, she thinks the lack of electrolytes and essential salts are the biggest factors, and also why my body wasn't retaining water.

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Update today - heart rate is fluctuating better but my resting isn't near what it was.

That said after spending about a cumulation of probably closer to 30 hours in a sauna over the course of a month - its going to take some time to rehydrate, and hopefully no long term damage.

Still feeling a little un-easy from time to time and hopefully I feel better soon

Not sure if I missed it but how much water do you drink per day? You are spending an hour a day in a sauna as well as excercising.

[Darkane]

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my aunt who is a pharmacist who read through my FB post said.. drink as much electrolytes, eat bananas and take magnesium as much as you can tolerate for the next few days.

I've been working from home from a month, and due to that, there really has been no added salts as most of everything we eat is from scratch. Couple that with a daily routine of working out, some cardio and an hour of sauna, she thinks the lack of electrolytes and essential salts are the biggest factors, and also why my body wasn't retaining water.

Have a cheat meal!

Lots of bacon, pancakes, syrup and about 1.5L of water and I guarantee you’ll retain water.

It sounds like you’re fine, so there the good news. Have a very loose day of eating and trying to do things you enjoy

[r3ccOs]

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Have a cheat meal!

Lots of bacon, pancakes, syrup and about 1.5L of water and I guarantee you’ll retain water.

It sounds like you’re fine, so there the good news. Have a very loose day of eating and trying to do things you enjoy

Essential Salts

this morning after taking about 1500mgs of Magnesium and alot of varying electrolytes containing sodium cloride, sodium bicarbonate - my BP is 117/71 with RHR of 63 (which is still a tad higher than my norm)

Though this is typically associated with acute dehydration - it is actually the depletion of these essential minerals/salts because of the excessive use of my Sauna. I always drank lots of water with and after my Sauna session, but as I hadn't deliberately looked to replenishing salts (assuming like all North Americans I already have an excess) I ended up depleted.

I called my Doctor this morning - He mentioned that he didn't think dehydration was a factor as I didn't have those signs but he agrees with what I'm seeing and that the sinus node wouldn't have been firing optimally and coupled with the low-bp condition, essentially manifested into what happened.

Since I've been home for the last 30 days, I've used the sauna every day and the wife being especially health conscious, only healthy fats, NO salts, limited carbs, little to no sugars - further contributed as there was no avenue to replenish these electrolytes.

Anyways I'm feeling MUCH MUCH better - he also agrees that this was not a Anxiety induced panic attack and to take my learning and to validate everything also with the Cardiologist.

[ExtraSlow]

Eat some good from a can or box once in a while buddy.

[vengie]

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search infrared sauna detox

like i said man. Potential. Help. Aid. With no proof.

"Concerning using these saunas to eliminate toxins, fat also hinders the practicality of the IR sauna’s application as a detoxification device. Although the process of pulling water out could be beneficial in terms of excreting toxins through your sweat, this cannot happen unless fat is also breaking down. Because the science hasn't shown that IR saunas induce fat breakdown or mobilization, it’s unlikely they cause detoxification. And why, you might ask? Because the largest storage place for toxins is fat cells, and these cells don’t just release toxins when the temperature increases; they have to be breaking down first. Thus, it’s unlikely (and unproven) that toxins are released by sitting in an IR sauna."


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here is the link to article
https://www.elitefts.com/education/i...-or-fantastic/

Like i said man im not opposed to it because it has alot of health benefits, but not enough research has been done to actually show the effects with the sauna by itself when it comes to detox. We will just have to agree to disagree.

While I agree with you that diet and exercise are critical to maintaining a healthy body. To say there is no proof is just being closed minded.
There are numerous studies related to Far Infrared's ability to penetrate the body and break up heavy metals, allowing you to sweat them out.
Like I said, search "Far infrared Detoxification" on google scholar and you'll find NUMEROUS papers

https://johnappleton.co.nz/media/wys...IFY_OR_DIE.pdf

https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=...83&p=AONE&sw=w

https://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&...nsauna&f=false

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312275/

https://naturallivingfamily.com/infr...auna-benefits/

https://ihsindy.com/wp-content/uploa...red-Saunas.pdf

Just look into how a far infrared sauna works. Its much different than a dry or steam sauna.

[r3ccOs]

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While I agree with you that diet and exercise are critical to maintaining a healthy body. To say there is no proof is just being closed minded.
There are numerous studies related to Far Infrared's ability to penetrate the body and break up heavy metals, allowing you to sweat them out.
Like I said, search "Far infrared Detoxification" on google scholar and you'll find NUMEROUS papers

https://johnappleton.co.nz/media/wys...IFY_OR_DIE.pdf

https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=...83&p=AONE&sw=w

https://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&...nsauna&f=false

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312275/

https://naturallivingfamily.com/infr...auna-benefits/

https://ihsindy.com/wp-content/uploa...red-Saunas.pdf

Just look into how a far infrared sauna works. Its much different than a dry or steam sauna.

WHILE I can attest that when I was routine with my Infrared sauna- (I use it mostly in Winter) I felt for the last few years it was effective in warding off colds/flus while maintaining a certain sense of well-being that you get from a good bike ride, run or rigorous outdoor activity

I love it.. but don't over-do it clearly and well, don't just drink clear water.

[revelations]

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While I agree with you that diet and exercise are critical to maintaining a healthy body. To say there is no proof is just being closed minded.
There are numerous studies related to Far Infrared's ability to penetrate the body and break up heavy metals, allowing you to sweat them out.
Like I said, search "Far infrared Detoxification" on google scholar and you'll find NUMEROUS papers

https://johnappleton.co.nz/media/wys...IFY_OR_DIE.pdf

https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=...83&p=AONE&sw=w

https://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&...nsauna&f=false

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312275/

https://naturallivingfamily.com/infr...auna-benefits/

https://ihsindy.com/wp-content/uploa...red-Saunas.pdf

Just look into how a far infrared sauna works. Its much different than a dry or steam sauna.

Being Finnish, I am a big proponent of sauna heat and rock steam therapy for crazy sweating. It really does make your skin feel amazing, esp combined with cold water dunks.

The key is to sweat - so if the IR/whatever sauna you use allows for this, then you are helping detox at least in some manner. Near/far IR makes no difference and its all marketing hype most of the time in terms of specifics.

The Atlantic had an article about this as well.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-sweat/528813/

[blitz]

Take the fit bit off. Seems like most of your stress at this point is based on the numbers. You’re caught in a loop.