What are you drinking?

[ercchry]

I know nothing, but that willowpark offers them every year, 2019 seems sus? They were selling 2020 back in Aug.



https://issuu.com/willowparkwinesand...deaux_offer_1_

[ExtraSlow]

If you love talking about wine with people who love to talk about wine, then this seems great. You can really deep dive and nerd out. Superb opportunity.

[BavarianBeast]

[ThePenIsMightier]

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If you love talking about wine with people who love to talk about wine, then this seems great. You can really deep dive and nerd out. Superb opportunity.

I am very much not that guy. I am better described as "hey, this bottle that's normally $50 is down to $30 so I'd like to try it".

@ercchry I saw that one from Willow Park before the co-op one. My assumption was the 19's are being released this spring and perhaps the 20's aren't until next spring and that Willow Park one is super super early. But I really don't know.

[ercchry]

If you want a good deal Italian, looks like Kirkland changed up producers on their brunello, $27.99 now, use to be about $38? Wine maker signature on the label links it back to being from these guys:



Haven’t tried it yet, might open it tonight. If it’s above average I’m going back for more, I don’t see how that price point is sustainable especially with current supply chain issues

[ExtraSlow]

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I am very much not that guy. I am better described as "hey, this bottle that's normally $50 is down to $30 so I'd like to try it".

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I can't imagine any kind of special "wine futures purchase" actually saves a guy money overall. I think the value is elsewhere in that program.

[bjstare]

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I don’t see how that price point is sustainable especially with current supply chain issues

Because Costco.

[killramos]

Bird in hand is worth 2 in bush applies to all things

Costco gives you the chance to pre sell your entire productive potential years in advance.

That kind of job security is enormous for a winery.

[ercchry]

Obviously… but the reduction in price from the last vintage is pretty substantial… and a great value for a brunello… gonna hedge the risk as a further price drop is unlikely, but a million reasons for an increase are possible

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I can't imagine any kind of special "wine futures purchase" actually saves a guy money overall. I think the value is elsewhere in that program.

Well, apparently the bird/bush argument holds for this, as well. The purchaser of futures is gambling that the wine will be better than anticipated and that once it's fully released from the barrels, tested, critiqued and bottled, the price will go up as demand increases and I'll have bought mine for ___% cheaper because I took a risk.

This sounds like something that would make more sense if I was buying several cases of wine, and I'm not, so I'm not their target buyer.

[Buster]

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Twice now the "opportunity" to buy Bordeaux wine futures from 2019 has came all over me come upon me still not better.

I'm thinking of doing it through co-op, but only with some of the cheaper bottles. Is this a scam? Their story is very compelling, so I am... How do they say in Paris? "Sus"?

I almost never buy French wine aside from the occasional Bordeaux or Chateauneuf du Pape but I do thoroughly enjoy them when I do, so it's not like a rule where "I refuse to drink wine made by cheese eating, surrender monkeys" or anything. I just usually go Italian to match my... jeans?

So if this is a scam, please help me.
And if you're a wine snob and can advise on East vs West banks in terms of bold flavours, that would be great.

This is a pretty common thing. I haven't bothered. What is a wine "future" in practice? Is this something you can then sell, ie is there a secondary market for these "futures"? Why not just buy the wine and stick it in your basement for a mature date?

Anyway, I don't like the idea of giving someone an interest free loan for an unknown whatever. This doesn't sound like a scam - probably more along the lines of a car dealer offering you window etching on your new car or something.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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This is a pretty common thing. I haven't bothered. What is a wine "future" in practice? Is this something you can then sell, ie is there a secondary market for these "futures"? Why not just buy the wine and stick it in your basement for a mature date?

Anyway, I don't like the idea of giving someone an interest free loan for an unknown whatever. This doesn't sound like a scam - probably more along the lines of a car dealer offering you window etching on your new car or something.

I trust your advise.
I'm not interested in the $1k+ bottles but I bet there's a more reasonable chance those could be an investment opportunity with a couple years in the cellar.
What am I really hoping for, here? To see the bottle I got for $50 on the shelf next summer for $80?
"Hey TPiM - shut your pie hole and get back to work!"

[Buster]

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Well, apparently the bird/bush argument holds for this, as well. The purchaser of futures is gambling that the wine will be better than anticipated and that once it's fully released from the barrels, tested, critiqued and bottled, the price will go up as demand increases and I'll have bought mine for ___% cheaper because I took a risk.

This sounds like something that would make more sense if I was buying several cases of wine, and I'm not, so I'm not their target buyer.

I like to have a few $30 bottles of wine around, so I don't have to serve my good stuff to the cretins. I'll buy a case of that brunello no problem.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm an absolute savage when it comes to wine. I drink sub $30 bottles and I'm very happy with them. This may not surprise anyone.

[BavarianBeast]

Wine is for blowhards

[asp integra]

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Wine is for blowhards

What is that? Looks like what was in my sink last time it backed up lol

[BavarianBeast]

Yeah it definitely looked nasty but tasted quite good. A bit heavy, made for a good dessert.

[ExtraSlow]

"Smoothie-style" beer is a phrase that should not be used ever.

[ThePenIsMightier]

^I reckon you'd get your ass kicked for sayin that, Man.

[killramos]

Is my old fashioned more appropriate?