Trudeau has to go?

[killramos]

What’s really telling is how many premiers he has gotten on board.

It’s not just some isolated conservative pissing in the wind.

These Trudeau policies are pissing off the vast majority of Canadians and the Liberals are thumbing their noses at them.

[vengie]

There won't be a vote of non confidence.
Too many liberal and NDP MP's reach tenure for their pensions in 2025.

[Brent.ff]

Think the liberals are now so screwed that if they back down and pause the tax, conservatives can say 'see, we were right'.. They only have the rebate as their defence at this point so have to stick with it

[suntan]

The CT rebate is only for provinces that pay CT. I guess the nuance is lost on the media.

[Darkane]

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PP has been hammering away at Trudeau on the affordability CRISIS. With the carbon taxes due to rise in April, and again April 2025, I can't see how this will sway voters back to trudeau. This is just one issue, people as a whole are tired of trudeau and this government. It won't last to 2025 especially if Jags sees that the NDP can become the official opposition. At this point, the LPC are a useless political party, you have the Cons on the mid-right and NDP/Liberals hard-left.

Don’t forget - carbon goes up April first, and the SECOND carbon tax goes up July 1.

I’ve been asking people I know if they even knew about the second tax. They looked at me like I had two heads

Was introduced last year under the Clean fuel act or something.

Look forward that as well.

[Misterman]

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I love Montreal but JFC are people there retarded.

Based on my one and only experience travelling there. I would say yes.

[Kloubek]

Fuck the Carbon tax. Can't wait to see this government take a hike.

We haven't seen inflation like this in decades. Perfect time to double and triple that impact by making the dollar stretch even shorter, right?

Meanwhile, while we're sucking our soda through soggy straws and our children are wondering how they will ever afford a home, China is ramping up pollutant production at an exponential level - nullifying any chance developed nations like ours have of making any reasonable impact anyway. Not that the tax does a thing to affect it regardless.

Most of us have lived through crashes and burst bubbles, and I realize that inflation was worse in the 80's (Under Trudeau Sr's rule, naturally), but I cannot recall a time that I felt more negatively impacted by governmental decisions than now. Our systems are worse, yet we're paying more than ever.

I'm progressively starting to view those "Fuck You Trudeau" signs a bit differently.

[davidI]

Imagine talking so much about disinformation on the internet and then constantly blatantly posting disinformation and straight up lies on your Twitter feed...

https://x.com/liberal_party/status/1769820155779940820?s=20

There's no way to embed tweets on here, right?

[rage2]

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Imagine talking so much about disinformation on the internet and then constantly blatantly posting disinformation and straight up lies on your Twitter feed...

https://x.com/liberal_party/status/1769820155779940820?s=20

There's no way to embed tweets on here, right?

I don’t think that’s a lie. As I’ve stated before, our federal carbon tax is simply wealth redistribution. Top 20% pay more than bottom 80%, so 8 of 10 Canadians get more money back.

And yes you can embed tweets here. Quote me to see the code.

[jutes]

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Imagine talking so much about disinformation on the internet and then constantly blatantly posting disinformation and straight up lies on your Twitter feed...

https://x.com/liberal_party/status/1769820155779940820?s=20

There's no way to embed tweets on here, right?

Going by the comments, Liberals are going to get demolished to third party status.

[ExtraSlow]

Plus they don't count any business portion of that tax as "coming from people".

[Buster]

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I don’t think that’s a lie. As I’ve stated before, our federal carbon tax is simply wealth redistribution. Top 20% pay more than bottom 80%, so 8 of 10 Canadians get more money back.

And yes you can embed tweets here. Quote me to see the code.

It's a lie, since they are not highlighting the wealth distribition aspect.

Also, since the program costs money to administer, it is by definition, costing "Canadians" money, even after the re-distribution.

[killramos]

That and the Liberal math ignores any broad costs to Canadians rather only utilizes direct costs in the denominator.

If their carbon tax raises the cost by of a loaf of bread by $2 none of that is factored into their math. Only the direct bill you pay when you fill up your tank or heating your home etc is included.

The governments own auditor general reports of the true cost of the carbon tax on Canadians is what underpins the conservatives argument.

I guess it depends what you believe, Liberal politicians creative accounting or reality as per the auditor general.

[Buster]

The Liberals claim that the tax causes no inflation.

It's a preposterous claim of course, because it assumes that the transportation industry is just going to eat the cost of the tax.

[pheoxs]

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That and the Liberal math ignores any broad costs to Canadians rather only utilizes direct costs in the denominator.

If their carbon tax raises the cost by of a loaf of bread by $2 none of that is factored into their math. Only the direct bill you pay when you fill up your tank or heating your home etc is included.

The governments own auditor general reports of the true cost of the carbon tax on Canadians is what underpins the conservatives argument.

I guess it depends what you believe, Liberal politicians creative accounting or reality as per the auditor general.

That is true but the shitty thing is those costs are never disappearing even if they revoke the tax. We saw it with gasoline when we lifted the fuel tax and the gap between AB prices and other provinces still shrunk back. We're fucked now matter what at this point.

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That is true but the shitty thing is those costs are never disappearing even if they revoke the tax. We saw it with gasoline when we lifted the fuel tax and the gap between AB prices and other provinces still shrunk back. We're fucked now matter what at this point.

If reddit blows up over lost carbon rebate cheques then it'll be worth it.

[Xtrema]

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The Liberals claim that the tax causes no inflation.

It's a preposterous claim of course, because it assumes that the transportation industry is just going to eat the cost of the tax.

Not just transportation. Every industry that need to use energy and/or invest into new equipment to use less of it.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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The Liberals claim that the tax causes no inflation.

It's a preposterous claim of course, because it assumes that the transportation industry is just going to eat the cost of the tax.

And eat the cost of the heat (and some electricity) for indoor food processing or growth such as hydroponic tomatoes, lettuce, peppers, cucumbers, etc.

It should be easy af to actually directly assign the pennies to each item in the "CPI basket of goods" with careful enough Crayon selections that only a kErT could deny that math.

Hasn't someone done this, by now? Which journalist will join the growing group of "Trumper nut jobs" and date to suggest that increasing the cost of a product's feedstocks increase the price of that product?

[Buster]

Once more, from the top.

Trudeau is not the cause of the problem. He is the symptom. Canadians are retarded, is the actual cause.

[kertejud2]

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Not just transportation. Every industry that need to use energy and/or invest into new equipment to use less of it.

I mean, that is kind of the point of the whole thing.